One more remark on sensations of fastness -- which can be correlated, at least to some degree, with actual speed if you are accustomed to (1) riding the same gears or very similar gears on different bikes and (2) are sufficiently aware of your cadence: the tricycle (narrow-tubed 531, and light for a trike at ~28 lb with Old School parts, felt noticeably draggier than the Rivs, the Herse, and the Motobecane, and as well a bit slower than the Sam and the Fargo/Kojaks, gearing taken into account. I attribute this to the third wheel: the tires were, IIRC, IRC Tandem quality. Pushing the (in this case) 71" cruising gear my cadence and the related effort/torque was slower/higher, ceteris paribus.
Patrick "ceteris paribus to you to, buddy" Moore On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 12:22 PM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > It may not be weight, or it may be lower wheel weight, but I consistently > -- over 10 years -- find myself climbing faster, particularly when I stand, > on my 18 lb (pedals, cage, but no seat bag or bottle) gofast -- > particularly noticeable because it is geared higher (75") than my other > bikes. In particular I often find myself *not* bailing on one particular > very steep 1/4 mile section, when I fully intend to, as I do on the other > fixies and which is a struggle on the 34-to-40" outer ring low on the Fargo > (38X32X29", 38X26X27.5" wheels respectively, even without a grocery load. > > OTOH, the Herse I used to own, which was a tank, felt faster than either > the similarly weighted Sam Hill and the slightly heavier Fargo (with Kojak > wheelset) even when cruising in a 73" gear compared to a 67" to 69" gear -- > this with decidedly non-optimum tires (IRC Tandem belted 30 mm -- these > felt better than the doggy 35 mm Pasela Tourguards). The Sam felt much like > the Fargo with Kojak wheelset: Not bad at all but certainly more sluggish > on the flats as on the hills. > > I have no fixed idea why there should be such differences, but I guess > that, beside weight and wheel weight, and tire quality, there is fit: the > Herse fit as well or almost as well as my custom Rivs. > > FWIW again, the much lighter-tubed and narrower-tubed '73 Motobecane felt > faster than the Sam or Fargo, but slower overall than the Herse or the > Rivs. 67" gear -- shod with said IRCs. > > > On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Scot Brooks <scothinck...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> In honor of Jan, I did my Ballard Trader Joe's grocery trip this morning >> with decreased tire pressures (about 65psi) and front loaded maybe 10 >> pounds of food in the basket. The Soma still climbed like mad rat. Budget >> grocery randonneur :) >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ifgdHEHPPf0J. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> > > > -- > > ------------------------- > Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA > For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW > http://resumespecialties.com/index.html > ------------------------- > -- ------------------------- Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html ------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.