I agree with Steve in doubting that Grant would build a thin tubed low 
trail rando bike.  That's just not the kind of bike Grant designs.  Just 
like if you went to Mitch Pryor and asked for a high-trail stiffer 
all-rounder, it's not the bike he's comfortable building.  Grant designs 
Rivendells.  Mitch Pryor designs M.A.P.'s 

Side note, I wonder, Steve how do you feel about the fact that the M.A.P. 
Campeur option includes a diagatube.  The horror!  :-)

If you'll excuse the metaphor:  I wouldn't ask a rabbi to perform a 
Catholic wedding.  It's something he probably *could do*, being generally 
educated about religious ceremonies, but it's not something he'd be 
comfortable doing, and it would be no surprise that when you asked him to 
perform your catholic wedding, he politely decline to do it.  Let the rabbi 
do what a rabbi is comfortable doing.  Grant is comfortable designing 
Rivendells.  Grant thinks it is possible to build a bike that is too flexy, 
so he designs bikes that are flexy enough, but not too flexy.  Grant has 
done more first hand experimentation on the T-word than most people, and 
he's happy with the way he designs bikes.  

Even though I own and like my skinny tubed low-trail bike, if I win the 
raffle, I will have Grant design me a Rivendell.  I'd tell him the kind of 
riding I want to do on it, and I'd be very specific on all the clearances I 
want, but I'd still plan on the bike being a Rivendell, not a Rene Herse.  

On Friday, December 21, 2012 6:25:25 AM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 19:03 -0800, Allan in Portland wrote: 
> > Mine is a thin-wall, low-trail Saluki. (Would Grant do a low-trail 
> > custom? I think he would.) 
>
> I doubt it.  However, Mitch Pryor will -- it's called the Randonneur 
> Project -- and Boulder will. 
>
>
>
>

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