Here is a photo of my bike dressed up to do a planned 6 day long trip to 
Laos in a couple of weeks. 

Nitto mini front with a small wald, nitto big rear rack that will carry 
some ortlieb classic rollers (to be loaned to me). There are 4 bottle cages 
total - 2 mounted on the bars with Minoura clamps - a total capacity of 
almost 2.9 L of fluids. 

<http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8500/8292709975_ae40a9df9a_c.jpg>


Also a fit review (and a gear review) that I hope will be helpful to 
anybody considering this bike. 

Lots of my opinions have changed even since my most recent review 4 months 
ago, but I have also been riding a lot more, currently averaging about 350 
km / week - 60% good road, 30% potholey rough road, 10% technical trail. 

My body: Age 32,  weigh 145 lbs, 175 cm tall, 88 cm PBH. Quite flexible, i 
touch my toes OK. 

Frame: 56 cm, Waterford built (cantilever ready) Hillborne.

Some of you know I cracked 2 head tube joints about a year ago. These were 
fixed by a builder in Bangkok who brazed in 2 rods of silver for about 25 
bucks. The paint job cost about 80. The paint was not good; the colour 
matched OK but the paint bubbled and cracked later. The joints have held up 
well though. 

<http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8354/8292825299_758f512b11_c.jpg>


A few weeks ago I was in a century ride with a group of 23mm roadies and a 
car cut us off. The rider behind me hit me and bent slightly one of my seat 
stays. Brakes were thrown out of alignment but the bike was good to keep 
riding. 

Nearly 3 years into owning my first steel bike and still very glad to be 
riding this material.


Stem and handlebars: 

11 cm Nitto Tallux, 46cm Noodles

I could be comfortable on a 10cm stem too, but this works great at the 
moment and I would not change anything. At first I balked at having to 
order a Tallux because all the Technomic Deluxes were out of stock, but I 
ordered a Tallux anyway, and I now ride it at its maximum height. 

The noodles with the tallux are a pretty mean combination - I have them set 
up like Grant/Riv say and I ride them almost permanently in the drops, and 
it feels like they make me ride with more power, and definitely more 
comfortably over a long distanc. Standard hand positions are in the bottom 
half of the hook. When riding trail in the attack position, I hold them 
higher up in the hooks where my index finger can reach the brakes. I get on 
the elbows sometimes for long climbs, and ride on the hoods when I'm 
cruising or taking a break. If you are familiar with how dirt drop bars 
work, I guess this is a pretty similar set up with a more hybrid 
application. I like this setup very much.


Drivetrain: 

Sugino XD2 (stock gearing, 46/36/24 ), Silver shifters, 13 - 28t IRD 7spd 
freewheel 

No issues here, the whole thing works great and I've become very fond of 
the silver shifters (although this really did take a while). The gearing is 
sufficient too, and the triple is always appreciated. I tend to attack up 
the mountain in the 36 / 28 for as long as I can manage and then pop it 
into the 24 ring when I'm out of steam. 24/28 will still go up anything 
except the worst mountain bike climb when I am already shattered. Hasn't 
happened yet. 46/13 is enough for flat road sprints up to 54 kph and is 
actually pretty good for cruising at 35+ kph too, and if I am heading 
downhill so fast that I can't pedal anymore, I should really just work on a 
better tuck. 


I use TIME ATAC XS pedals and mtb trail shoes. They're still a lot quicker 
for me than using platforms, especially grinding up big mountains which I 
do a lot of.


Wheels: 

Rich built Phil Rivy dish less rear, schmidt SON front, velocity synergy 
rims. 

Great wheel set! No complaint. Wheels are still smooth as butter. The 
dynohub has been an fantastic addition and I would recommend it highly. Its 
never weighed me down, but the lighting is incredible (I use a IQ Cyo 
headlight and a Toplight Line Plus taillight). One thing though, never 
mount your lights upside down. I did this with the Toplight to clear the 
cables from the rear tire and it is dead. 


I had the Phil Rivy originally equipped with the Shimanopore freewheel 
which broke within several months of riding. (it would slip a notch with 
every engagement). I've been using the IRD freewheel for a while now, and 
it has been problem free.


Tires: 

45mm Marathon Extremes

I bought the bike with these tires and they were ok but I always felt slow 
on them. Later I tried some Jack Brown Greens and thought they were much 
faster…but when I started training for bike packing rides, riding a lot 
more I put the Marathons back on again and I prefer these now. I don't 
notice any sluggishness from the weight at all, but that's only riding 
upwards of 300 km / week. With these tires I am still hanging on to group 
rides at 35 - 40 kph, so no slower than riding Jack Browns, but more 
comfortable at 30front/35rear PSI. Those pressures work perfectly on the 
road, but are sketchy on the trail. However, I keep getting pinch flats on 
the trail whenever I reduce the pressure any lower, so I just ride these 
pressures no matter what I am riding now. 


Saddle: 

Brooks Team Pro on a Nitto crystal fellow. 

Nitto stuff is so nice… and the Team Pro is fabulous too. I have a 
seasoned-to-near-death B17 and a Team Pro with only a few thousand km on 
it. The Team Pro disappears under me if wearing lycra / chamois, but the 
B17 is more comfortable if wearing cotton and underpants. I tend to wear 
lycra more often. 


Thoughts on riding a "heavy" bike:

Some time back I made a commitment to myself to train to ride multi day off 
road epics like the GDMBR, CT and lots of the unnamed stuff here in Asia. 
With that focus set, I sold my 23mm Trek road bike and set about training 
on a rig that I would make heavier over time to aid my training. The 
results have surprised me. We all know how much faster a lighter bike feels 
on a climb, but what I've learnt is that if I condition myself to climb on 
a heavier bike, that feeling gets better, and there isn't much of a speed 
penalty. 

The only numbers I have for this are on my regular climb up the local 
mountain called Doi Suthep. This is a 700 m climb with an almost steady 6% 
gradient. On my 8kg go-fast road bike over the last year, I would climb 
this mountain 2-3 times per week at between 42 - 47 minutes. On the 
Hillborne last week, I climbed it in 47, this is with dynohub, front rack, 
lights etc - all the things you don't normally put on a racer. Slightly 
slower but not much. The effort feels different, especially when you are 
still warming up, but after 30 minutes there's hardly a difference.


Would I buy a Hillborne again? 

When I bought the Hillborne I was on the fence between Atlantis and this 
bike. If I were to do it again, I would spring for the Atlantis. That added 
tire clearance is the main thing. 45mm on the type of trail we have here in 
Thailand (rocky, technical) just isn't enough, and I pinch flat my tires on 
trail roughly once out of every 3 rides. 

The other thing is that when I broke my frame last year, I wrote to John 
and he said that they would let me buy the shop model as a replacement for 
500 bucks. I would also have to send my frame back, and pay for shipping of 
the replacement frame to me. I was pretty sure the frame was defective; it 
had cracked when I didn't crash, I just rode through an embankment. But 
these things happen. However, the solution  would've worked out to heckuva 
lot of money, so thank goodness I could get the frame repaired in Thailand, 
even if not to the same standards.  I might be wrong, but I have a feeling 
Riv has more financial room with warranties with a more expensive frame 
like the Atlantis (even though my Waterford Hillborne commanded a 
significant premium). 


This Hillborne is still helluva bike. 


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