The helmet story was mentioned to make a point about keeping ones hands on 
the bars. *I thought it humorous* that the other rider mentioned my lack of 
helmet all the while riding *no handed* but...... actually I was responding 
to Williams comment about his Hilsen....."my* Rawland does shimmy* coasting 
no handed at above 16mph or so and *the Hilsen does noti*.  Maybe I'll get 
a needle bearing headset to try and get after that a little. * My Hilsen is 
totally shimmy-free*".
 The fact that his Hilsen does't shimmy doesn't surprise me since it has 
enough trail. Shimmy at any speed could be terrifying if you are not 
expecting it which is the main point I wanted to make in that Grant designs 
that out of his frames by adding enough trail. It may compromise straight 
line handling or the ability to hold a line better up a slow grinder but 
overall it results in a safer ride IMO.

On Monday, December 10, 2012 8:54:26 PM UTC-8, Kelly wrote:
>
> This thread is now complete.. We had trail and now helmets...  :)
>
> Wait wait.. I can make it complete without anyone's mother getting run 
> over by a freight train..
>
> Politics...
>
>

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