Michael, I like the way you think.
I started with the Noodles on a 10cm stem, then switched to 8. Still
feels like the reach is a bit much.
I think the long top tube on the (1st generation) Sam is less suited
to drops.
The Oxford is only $38, although it does start to add up when you
factor in new brake levers and cables, and a good cable cutter.
My commute is about to get 50% longer and I'm trying to dial in the
bike for comfort.

On Nov 24, 8:35 pm, Michael Hechmer <mhech...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just to confuse things more.... you got that right.  If you want the bars
> lower, why switch?  How do the noodles feel on the drops?  Is this a
> solution in search of a problem?  Would dinner for two be a better idea?
>
> Michael
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> On Saturday, November 24, 2012 1:16:30 PM UTC-5, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:
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> > Just to confuse things more, I think I would probably try putting the
> > bars a bit  lower if the reach was a bit less.
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> > On Nov 24, 8:14 pm, Jay in Tel Aviv <jayin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I've got Noodles on my Sam with an 8 cm stem, just above saddle
> > > height. Reach feels OK or maybe a tiny bit long.
> > > What stem length would I want if I switch to a Soma Oxford bar?
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> > > The numbers on the Oxford are 54 cm width, 52 mm rise and 155 mm
> > > sweep.
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> > > Riv says I would want a 11 or possibly 10 cm stem with Albas, but they
> > > were out of stock when I wanted to order them and  the Oxfords are a
> > > lot less $$$.
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> > > Thanks, and happy Thanksgiving weekend to everyone.
>
> > > Jay

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