You tested it. Couldn't do it. Must be hard. I will take your experience as 
a data point, no more. 
On a built bike, for me, dozens of times, gravity made it easier. The 
derailleur and chain were not a factor.

Philip "Don't I have a bike to ride?" Williamson
www.biketinker.com
 

On Friday, September 21, 2012 8:54:38 PM UTC-7, Michael Richters wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Philip Williamson 
> <philip.w...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote: 
> > I won't try to put an unshod wheel into a bare frame if the dropouts 
> need 
> > spreading. It's easy with a built bike, less so without. 
>
> What would make it easier with a fully-assembled bike?  If anything, I 
> would expect it to be marginally easier with the bare frame, since one 
> wouldn't need to deal with the chain and derailleur.  At any rate, 
> this hypothesis does not appear to have been tested, at least not 
> based on the contents of this discussion. 
>

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