Nah, a lugged steel frame with cream panels; adorned with silver parts, a 
quill stem, and friction shifters; is pretentious enough. ;-)
 
Joe Bernard
Pretentiously residing in Vallejo, CA. 

On Friday, September 21, 2012 8:26:42 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

> My answer to your notion of a market for factory beausaged Rivendells 
> is "I certainly hope not".  Not knowing anything about the musical 
> instrument world does not prevent me from offering the opinion that 
> this entire concept sounds pretentious in the extreme.  I envision 
> this rich guy with this "new-old" guitar spinning some BS yarn about 
> playing it in his rock band in the 60s or something. 
>
> I like to think that people buy Rivs to ride, not put away as 
> collectibles.  A bike gets its fair share of beausage even if ridden 
> moderately and well cared for.  Ride a few thousand miles a year & 
> ship it around a bit, hop on'n'off a few buses & trains, and they get 
> thoroughly beat looking wihin a decade. 
>
> Of course, one of the ironies of owning a Riv is the occassional 
> inquiry "So how old is that thing, anway?".  When I bought my 
> Atlantis, it was because I could load it down for a tour or go out 
> wandering on fire trails.  Never thought of it as an old bike, just 
> one with the versatility I wanted. 
>
> dougP 
>
> On Sep 21, 6:54 pm, lungimsam <john11.2...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> > Hello everyone, 
> > 
> > You all have been around Riv-culture longer than I. I was wondering what 
> > your opinion is of Rivendell having a custom line of factory relic-ed 
> > (beausaged, in Riv-speak) frames one day. Is there a market for it? 
> > 
> > Let me explain: 
> > In the guitar and bass instrument retail world, makers manufacture 
> special 
> > lines of their instruments, called "relic-ed", for high prices. 
> > People seem to lust over these and pay thousands upon thousands for 
> them. 
> > The reliced versions have chipped, worn off paint, down to bare wood; 
> aged 
> > hardware (rusted and oxidized metal parts); and discolored, "aged" 
> plastic 
> > parts. This is done at the factory on a new instrument. 
> > So, you can have a guitar that looks well played and 40 years old, if 
> you 
> > think that looks nice. 
> > 
> > Personally, I prefer to do all "relicing" myself to my instruments (and 
> > bikes), through years of lovingly playing (riding) and using them. So I 
> > like to buy new, standard models. 
> > 
> > But there is a *HUGE* market for this in the guitar world. 
> > 
> > Is there a market for this in the Rivendell world? 
> > Would you buy a Rivendell, made with dinged paint, environmentally worn 
> > components, gassed gumwalls, and discolored plastic parts, for a more 
> > "artistic" look? Everything functions perfectly, of course. 
> > 
> > I wouldn't, as I like leaving my mark on things myself. 
> > Just wondering if you think there is a market for these kind of models. 
> > Pre-Beausaged bikes. 
> > 
> > Looks like Brooks has already started doing this with their saddles, as 
> > they have an aged, line, I think. 
>

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