I doubt the price would go that low David, maybe $1000 like the original 
Hillbornes. I would buy one at that price that fits fat tires with a single 
top tube and lugs, no discs please.
On the stem issue, to me it's tough to build a production bike and get 
everything to line up for everybody type. So those with longer legs and 
shorter torso's end up with taller stems. For me most of the Riv's fit 
pretty well with just the right amount of stem, so I prefer quills.  

~mike
Carlsbad Ca


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