You are correct. Dove is less wide, aluminum version of Albatross. I put 
this bar on a friend's bike, who is a small person. She loves it.

I put the VO Left Bank bar on my sister's bike, as I was trying to save 
money and did not want to spend Bosco $. I was looking for similar rise to 
the Bosco and it is very similar in shape and rise. I don't have the 
measurements handy, but I know it is not as wide. Still, it worked out well 
for my sister. She is also a small person. She loves it.

David Spranger
Charlotte, NC

On Wednesday, August 29, 2012 12:52:10 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Friend has ridden Fusion once to work and it looks as if a new bar is 
> in order to allow an even more upright position while we put the 
> saddle back an inch or so. The attached photo shows much how the bike 
> is presently set up. 
>
> I'm for the Dove or Albatross, but VO has swept back bars considerably 
> cheaper @ $35 with rises of 6 or 7 cm and sweeps-back of 18 and 19 cm. 
> I don't see these measurements for the Dove and Alb on the Riv site; 
> can anyone tell me how they compare to the VO bars? 
>
>
> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/handlebars/vo-left-bank-handlebar-config.html
>  
>
>
> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/handlebars/vo-montmartre-handlebar.html
>  
>
> Am I right in thinking that the Dove is very much like the Alba, just 
> made of aluminum and not as wide? 
>
> Also: She'll eventually need a better and wider saddle. Brooks out of 
> question right now, so I am seeking plastic alternatives: can anyone 
> point me to a nice, firmish, sprung saddle shaped more or less like a 
> B 67 or B 72?? I mention these only I've actually used them. 
>
> Lastly, the pedals are very slippery -- cheap cast aluminum with thin 
> ribber inserts, worst of both worlds. She'll be riding in athletic 
> shoes. Any suggestions for inexpensive replacements that aren't as 
> slippery? Prefer not to spend $60; how well do the Riv Sneaker Pedals 
> grip your shoes? MKS Touring Pedals would work but I wonder if they 
> are not more dangerous to tyro shins than the Sneaker-type design? 
>
> Lastly, if anyone has any of the above parts in good used condition 
> and wishes to sell or trade, please let me know offlist. 
>
> Thanks. 
>
> -- 
> "Believe nothing until it has been officially denied." 
>                                                    -- Claude Cockburn 
>
> ------------------------- 
> Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA 
> For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW 
> http://resumespecialties.com/index.html 
> ------------------------- 
>

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