>From a conversation on the CR list:
http://bulgier.net/pics/bike/CoolBikes/Bulgier/Laurie's/HotTubes_Davidson(big).jpg

Lugged, steel, and per Bulgier the article got it wrong: the frame is
sub **2.5** lb, the fork sub 1 lb. He said that his wife rode it
agressively for years, tossed it into vans, took it to Europe and, in
fact, commuted on it for years. It lasted 18 years until the st
cracked just where he'd indented it slightly to accomodate the rear
wheel *and* where he'd brazed on a fd tab.

I saw one of Bulgier's bikes here in ABQ, belonging to wife of former
Albuquerquean, iBoblistmember, lugged steel rider and mega mileage
peddler ("I only did 9,000 miles, it was a bad year"). A much larger
frame -- 58? -- and afaik not a lightened one, but beautiful in a zen
aesthetic with perfectly filed long point lugs and a medium grey
finish that didn't look industrial.

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 5:09 AM, Robert Zeidler
<zeidler.rob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a couple of bikes from Seven and a new Calfee built to the "Adventure" 
> spec. They are all "Riv-ish" in spec and set up, all at least 67 cm, and not 
> one weighs over 20 lbs.
>
> I also attempted to sell recently, a 64 Sam, brand new, which did not sell 
> without giving it away.  This past weekend, and tweaked the fit a bit and 
> took it out for about 40-ish miles. All I kept thinking was, "Boy this bike 
> is comfy". Not that the others aren't- I've done double-metrics on all, but 
> after a while, I backed off a bit and just rode this bike in it's sweet spot. 
> Boy, it was comfy :)
>
> And I kept staring at the stunning orange paint.
>
> RGZ
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Aug 27, 2012, at 5:34 PM, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 2012-08-27 at 17:00 -0400, Peter Morgano wrote:
>>> Not be banal but Rivendell bikes are lugged steel bikes. I dont think
>>> a CF bike with 25c tires is really "Rivish" at all, I mean how far are
>>> we going to strech a made up term anyway? Not hating on that kind of
>>> bike at all, rode one I have up at the parents house over the weekend
>>> and while it was really fun it would not be my choice for longer rides
>>> and comfort.
>>
>> Clearly there are two aspects of Rivendell bicycles, steel tubing and
>> lugged construction, that no Ti or carbon bike will have.  But it's not
>> hard to imagine Ti bikes that have Rivendellian characteristics.
>>
>> I saw one on the road the other day, a Hampsten Strada Bianca with long
>> reach sidepulls, nominally 27mm but actual width 30 mm Challenge
>> Parigi-Roubaix tires, longer than "usual" chainstays, all typical for
>> Rivendells, and indeed a bicycle very much at home on gravel roads
>> (that's what "Strada Bianca" means).  Crank was again typical Riv fare,
>> a Sugino square taper crank with what looked like a 46T or smaller big
>> ring.
>>
>> It belongs to a guy I know on the VSalon forum who lives not far from
>> me, and it's his daily commuter -- again, certainly "Rivish".  Of
>> course, it had brifters and a carbon fork, that last anathema in
>> Rivworld, but if there was such a thing as a Titanium Rivendell, this
>> would have been it.
>>
>> I've not ridden it, but I would confidently expect it to be very
>> comfortable for long rides.
>>
>>
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