I can't believe no one has mentioned this yet. Lugs. You can try to spec a 
CF frame to duplicate a Rivendell all you want, but you're still not gonna 
get pretty lugs and contrasting creme panels. No CF for me..I'd miss the 
lugs, and I don't trust that thin plastic. I watch a lot of Formula One 
auto racing, and I've seen a lot of CF cars wreck: that stuff snaps into 
lethal shards. Nuh uh.
 
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA. 

On Monday, July 2, 2012 9:07:45 PM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:

> I agree with Steve, and share his wholehearted disinterest in CF. 
>
> Riding a bike, for me, has nothing to do with eking out every milligram of 
> performance. A customer lady asked me last week if I was a "racer". My 
> response was an entirely unplanned and unrehearsed: "Nope, I ride my bike 
> for transportation, recreation, and adventure." I think that about sums it 
> up. Because these endeavors usually don't benefit much, if any, from a 
> couple pounds either way, CF holds no appeal for me. If it happens someday 
> that CF frames become as tough and versatile and inexpensive as a Surly 
> Cross-Check, I might reconsider, but then again, why bother? 
>
>
>
> On Monday, July 2, 2012 3:02:53 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 2012-07-02 at 12:59 -0700, Garth wrote: 
>> > 
>> > I wonder .... if everyone had the choice of their favorite Riv frame 
>> > with the exact same dimensions, in both steel and CF for about the 
>> > same price .... which would you choose ? 
>>
>> Steel, without question.  I have no interest whatever in carbon fiber. 
>>
>>
>>
>>

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