Not wanting to start a thing here but please dont compare Grant to Jobs, one is an innovator who ASKS people to trust him along for the ride while Jobs was more of a TELL you kind of person who said you would be sorry if you didnt listen to him, and most who didnt were, unfortunately. Corporate culture is important to me so I dont buy apple products, making your "innovations" on the backs of slave and child labor is something GP has never had to stoop to, then again he isnt driven purely by profit like Apple is. Apple is an innovator but they have used thier innovations and market share to push around smaller companies and foist over-priced slave labor products on a market that has been told Apple products are the thing to have. I admire a "no made in china" policy at Riv and that Grant knows who is making the bikes in Taiwan and that the workeres there are treated fairly. Grant and Jobs, both innovators who changed thier respective markets only GP is heads and tails above Jobs in morals, respect and professionalism. Sorry, rant over now, feel free to flame me, haha.
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote: > On Jun 8, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Peter Pesce <petepe...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Great read. I was really struck by the herd mentality evident in the > commentary - the almost palpable desperation for something, anything, "new" > to sell to a saturated market, offset by the terror of being first, and > maybe getting hung out to dry if you end up being the only! > > It is such a stark contrast to the attitude expressed by Grant, Jan et al > - "we're doing "X" *because* nobody else is willing to do "X." > > > Grant and Jan and Velo Orange and Wallbike are doing what good > entrepreneurs do: making the products they want to have. Trek and > Specialized and Cannondale etc. do what corporate businesses do: try to > guess what the "market" wants and trying to make that. The former create > markets, the latter exploit markets. The former can reinvent themselves > almost at will but the latter can't. The former drive the direction of the > market with much more influence than the latter. > > The former approach was behind the originations and resurgence of Apple. > When they were run from the corporate perspective by Scully and Amelio, > they nearly tanked several times. Jobs- for all his personality and > behavioral issues- kept the central notion of "what products do I really > want" as a center of product design. Their market research philosophy was > basically "wow, that's really f***ing cool!". The result is the most > valuable corporation in the world because it is driven by product design, > building the products that Jobs and his desk freak thought wold be really > cool to have, starting with a home brew computer built in a garage and > leading up to the iPad I am typing this on. > > I see the same fundamental approach at Rivendell. Grant thought that 650B > was cool and decided to sell them, and here we are with a "650B revolution" > three or four years later. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
