I have noticed that a lot of people swap frames out with great rapidity. Over the course of my life I have not done this and so my current collection of frames, all purchased new include, an '84 Trek, an 88 Marinoni, a "99 Surly, a 2004 Rambouilet,a 2008 Ebisu, and a 2009 Bilenky Tandem. My wife rides an '84 Specialized Sequoia, purchased used, and my daughter is still riding the '85 Bianchi I purchased new for her brother. Not having swapped frames around has allowed us to continually upgrade the wheels and components. I have easily been able to add PW BB, White Hubs & cranks, Paul's brakes, Cane Creek levers, Alpina & White cranks and Nitto bling. No regrets about buying the best components I could get. I just may go for the Rene Herse Cranks on the Trek, just because I don't like the looks or that awful hidden bolt on the Sugino. At m my age a 44/34/24 is starting to have some appeal!
Michael On Thursday, May 31, 2012 6:05:12 PM UTC-4, Kelly wrote: > > Jan, > > It was my impression that 105 would actually out last ultra and dura-ace. > It was heavier and was the best choice for touring bikes and such. The > advantages of the Dura-Ace was weight and shifting ramps .. especially for > the sprinters. For everyday riding the heavier gage material was stouter > and lasted longer. My impression only no facts to back it up. > I did just retire a tour bike to loaner status that has been on the road > for me since 2002 and still on the same group. (105) > > Just because it's better for racing and cost more doesn't mean it's > "better" or will last longer.. shimano anyway. My opinion only.. > > Kelly > > On Thursday, May 31, 2012 11:04:50 AM UTC-5, Peter M wrote: >> >> I agree Jan, but still have a hard time convincing my wife of this fact, >> Haha. >> On May 31, 2012 11:48 AM, "Jan Heine" <hein...@earthlink.net> wrote: >> >>> On May 31, 6:03 am, Steven Frederick <stl...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > It's interesting how people prioritize bike build budget money. Lot's >>> of >>> > Riv's proudly roll with fairly low-mid range yet functional parts, >>> Sugino >>> > cranks, 105 derailers, Tektro brakes. And I see a lot of Surly's with >>> CK >>> > headsets and various high-end bits. "Bike Bling." >>> >>> I think a lot depends on how much you ride. 105 parts will be more >>> expensive than Ultegra in the long run, if you ride more than 2000 >>> miles a year. Quality components offer better durability and/or >>> improved performance - for example, a high-end crank with narrower >>> tread (Q factor) and harder-wearing chainrings will be more enjoyable >>> and not much more expensive in the long-run than a cheap Sugino crank >>> with soft chainrings. >>> >>> I learned this early-on. My mid-range Peugeot 10-speed ended up being >>> the most expensive bike I ever owned, per mile. Once I started riding >>> seriously, it needed repairs and replacements almost weekly. When I >>> switched to a custom frame with Campagnolo components, which cost >>> three times as much to buy, my per-mile cost went way down. At the >>> same time, my enjoyment of cycling went way up. It can be a win-win >>> situation, once you get over the sticker shock. >>> >>> Jan Heine >>> Editor >>> Bicycle Quarterly >>> http://www.bikequarterly.com >>> >>> Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/KhrgMgFLK-IJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.