But for which size(s)?

A 60 Bombadil would weigh more than a 56, a 60 Ram would weigh more than a 58, 
etc.   What if Instead of frame, or frame/fork, you were looking at 
frame/fork/headset? Does that include the screws for the water bottle brazeons? 
 Bottom bracket or not?  Framesaver or boeshield?  Bare frame, or custom multi- 
coat heavy metallic paint?

I think my Bomba, with fork and headset and the extra diagonal with extra lugs, 
and with the curvastays, and screws for brazeons and multi-coat paint, might 
have been north of 8lbs... I didn't have a high-accuracy balance or digital 
scales or anything to verify, but it isn't a waif...

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