John: Totally agree on the need for low riders. Esteban's photo showing the rear load placement is intriguing. Your idea of a "lasher rack" sounds a good one. I've been carrying my clothes, etc, heavier stuff up front on a Tubus Duo and the camping gear (lighter but bulkier) on the rear, on a Nitto big back rack, and this combination is quite stable. I was surprised when such a light load on the rear was so noticeable, and merely moving it to the front was such a change. The classic "2 bags on the back & bar bag in front" doesn't work for me, even with a light load.
Like to see photos of the lasher rack when you get it done. dougP On Apr 12, 11:38 am, John Speare <j...@phred.org> wrote: > Doug -- I agree with this: > > >> FWIW, I've been exploring this issue for > > years and keep coming back to the same conclusion: weight in front > first. > > with a big old caveat: as long as the weight is on low riders, not above the > wheel. Tubus Tara is my favorite. > > I'm going to build a "lasher" rack for my main camping/touring/s240 bike -- > the idea is to haul heavy stuff up front, and to lash light bulky stuff > (sleeping pad and bag) on the lasher rack, which will sit low and behind my > rear axle. > > John Speare > Spokane, WAhttp://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com/ > > ________________________________________ > From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] > on behalf of dougP [dougpn...@cox.net] > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 9:08 PM > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Subject: [RBW] Re: Newsflash: High-trail Rivendells work with rear-load bias! > > My Atlantis has always handled better with a front weight bias. Just > last weekend I did an S24O with maybe 10 lbs per bag (tent in one, > sleeping bag in the other, misc clothes) and just tossing that onto > the rear was noticeable. I had my front low riders on so had the > chance to move the same load to the other end on the same ride and > voila! What a difference. FWIW, I've been exploring this issue for > years and keep coming back to the same conclusion: weight in front > first. > > Very cool looking rack set-up, Esteban. Glad it works out; looks like > heel strike wouldn't be an issue. > > dougP > > On Apr 11, 5:22 pm, EricP <ericpl...@aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Seems to me Jim Thill posted a while ago that the new Atlantis chainstays > > were pretty long. Enough so a 970 chain was just barely able to get around > > a similar setup. > > > To Esteban - nice setup. Never have tried a low panniers. Don't have a > > rack equipped for it. It looks nice on your Protovelo. Afraid the > > bags would pick up too much grime here in Minnesota. Especially in the > > non-summer months. > > > Eric Platt > > St. Paul, MN > > > On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 5:19:21 PM UTC-5, franklyn wrote: > > > > How long is really the chainstay? Grant only wrote that some sizes will > > > have chainstays longer than 46cm. My wife's 1982 Trek 720 has a chainstay > > > of 47cm, and you can definitely see and feel that extra length. One place > > > where one experiences issue is chain length. A brand new SRAM 970 chain > > > out > > > of package is not long enough for 46T chainring/32T large cog combination. > > > I was too lazy to lengthen the chain but tagging on a few more links, but > > > for now just told my wife not to shift to the Big-Big combination lest she > > > wants to break the derailleur. > > > > Franklyn- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
