I have a Pacer and a recently built up a Ram. The Ram is livelier in handling than the Pacer, but the Pacer is a fine bike. It doesn't handle tires as wide as the Ram, and nowadays with the terrible roads in the area (in Oakland--where one cyclist died flying over a crack into oncoming traffic), I make it a point to use as wide as I can go for comfort and safety.
I think there is a market for a lively road bike that can use wide tires. The Pacer, Casseroll, Smoothie are all in the right direction, but they can go even wider. A few hundred dollars in the frame is not a justification for me to get a different frame--especially when the different frame doesn't give you what you want... I would rather wait and buy the frame that really works than pay a little less and get something inferior and wish you had something else for as long as you put up with the inferior bike... Toshi On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <thill....@gmail.com> wrote: > IMO my Surly Cross-Check is the functional and ride-quality equivalent of the > Atlantis I owned for several years. The LHT is often compared to the > Atlantis, but the LHT is actually quite a bit stiffer/sturdier feeling to me. > The Cross-check is closer to the budget Atlantis. Then I suppose the Pacer is > the nearest Rambouillet equivalent. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/1AULE1l_nBAJ. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
