I'm really glad to see this discussion about the Shimano RD's.  Some
years ago I bought a used Atlantis from Tom Hill at Hyawatha.  When I
started riding the bike I was disconcerted by the fact that the
deraileurs worked the opposite from what I was used to.  Pushing the
levers away resulted in thing springing to a bigger gear.  I thought
of changing the mechanism to solve the "problem" but I'm lazy, the
thing worked fine, so I just adapted.  I probably ride the Atlantis
more, day in day out, than any of my other bikes.  So, what does one
call the reverse action deraileur?  Do I understand from the thread
that Shimano has dropped this device from the line-up or is it the
opposite?  This is probably the kind of thing that I should know w/o
asking but most of my bikes are vintage things with relatively crude
shifting mechanisms.  In my defense, however, I do know a lot about
Cambio Corsa shifters.
GeorgeS

On Feb 3, 3:46 pm, Rick <richardholc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> A year or more ago, my rambunctious golden retrievers knocked over the
> Atlantis, which was politely drying in the afternoon sun after a nice
> bath.  The derailer hanger bent, and it totaled my original derailer,
> which was the now-discontinued rapid rise version.  I admonished the
> dogs, and substituted with shimano's current high normal equivalent,
> consoling myself with the thought that I'd adjust to pulling my silver
> shifters up to go to a lower gear, just as I had quickly gotten used
> to pushing down for same when that reverse action came around.
>
> I never did.  Maybe the little fellow needed some fine tuning, but my
> real objection was, I suspect, somewhat more conceptual:  lifting that
> shifter up to ascend to a higher gear had come to make more sense
> somehow.  (That, and I still have one of the rapid rise fellows on the
> bleriot, so I wasn't able to completely block out the past
> experience.)
>
> So, through the magik of the intertubes, I procured and mounted the
> rapid rise model back on the Atlantis. The difference is remarkable
> for me, and I am most happy with my reversion to the reverse-action. I
> suppose I should get some more before the ether swallows all
> examples.
>
> That having been said, I have a question on another, tangentially-
> related subject:  when at rest, Atlantis sits on a two-legged
> kickstand, and with a decent load pops a static wheelie.  On a sloping
> surface, those handlebars swing round with a vengeance, and if the
> rear load's uneven, the resulting weight shift threatens to topple
> all.
>
> So -- what do you call/where can I get one of those rotation-limiting
> devices that prevent the full swing-around on the bars?  I've seen
> them in photos posted by a couple of you touring types, I believe.
> And maybe I should lop several centimeters off the kickstand legs to
> decrease the wheelie effect?
>
> Rick.

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