I am ~ 5'10" with 84.5 PBH and have a 56 Sam. The 56 is a great fit for me. I think 84 is on the cusp of 52/56 sizing but bigger is better than smaller as you can dial things in with stem, bars and saddle height.
Right now I have the bike built up with 46cm Noodle bars and 8cm Technomic stem. That combo works well for me. I do believe the Taiwan 56 frames are double TT but a call to Riv will answer that. Also - sometimes there are frames in the "attic" at RBW. There was a Protovelo labeled Sam frame a few weeks back. Might still be there. The San Marcos is really geared towards road use with smaller loads and minor off road. A nice looking frame and rides well, though. If you can handle the "girl's bike" questions the Yves Gomez might be worth considering. Same geometry as the Sam. But no top tube at all! Another used bike to keep an eye open for is a Heron. There were a couple of models and they are lighter tubing than the Atlantis - but very similar geometry. Designed by Grant and Waterford built. They take narrower tires than the modern Rivs. You can dig the info out of the internet archive wayback machine. http://web.archive.org/web/20061029010028/http://www.heronbicycles.com/frames.html Dan San Rafael, CA On Jan 21, 7:29 am, Mike Goldsworthy <mgoldswor...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks everyone for the help! > > I've sent an email to countrybike and will see what they've got. I'm > also going to try and get in touch with Rivendell - from the website, > it's unclear to me if the 56cm has a double TT or not. > > A few of you have suggested looking at different models - the > Atlantis, the AHH, and the Soma San Marcos. Can anyone help me with > the differences between these frames, and what they'd be good for? > > Also, one last question - I'm trying to measure my PBH, and I think > i'm about a 84.5. I'm 5'10", and in doing the method described on > Rivendell's site, I get 33.25"...which converted ends up about 84.5, > which seems to be right at the edge for a 56 Sam. I currently ride a > 54 Cannondale road bike. Anyone about the same size have experience on > a 56 Sam? > > On Jan 19, 12:13 pm, Mike Goldsworthy <mgoldswor...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi all - > > > My first time posting...I've been wanting to get a steel lugged bike > > for a while now to use for commuting, grocery shopping, rides with the > > kids...basically an all around general bike to use when I'm not riding > > a road bike. > > > I've finally landed on the Sam, and have been saving to get enough $ > > to do a complete build. I'm about half way there, and discovered on > > their website that it seems the 56cm only comes with a double top > > tube. I emailed a few days ago to ask if this is the case, but haven't > > heard back. > > > So, here's what I'm wondering - is the 56cm Sam only with a double top > > tube now? If so, what would you suggest as some other options? I > > really like the look and the idea of the Sam, but honestly don't like > > the look of the double top tube at all...and if I'm spending that > > much, I want to love not only the feel of it when I ride, but also I > > want to love the look of it -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.