Speaking of heavy, I was given a cannonball of an SRAM i-Motion 9 hub which
I built into a wheel and have been riding a few months.

I like gears, and I like the joy of fixed gear, but I don't like fixed gear
in rapidly accelerating and decelerating traffic. I like my White
Industries double cog freewheel, which is noisier than the one that came
with my Quickbeam. I like quiet, and the internal gear hubs I have ridden
(SA and this SRAM) have been...clicky. It just taps a little tune all the
time, a little different in different gears. Sometimes, it sounds like I
have a big fish on the line. But I may soon return to the universe of
derailleurs. I'd still try that SA 3-speed fixed hub, and even put a
freewheel on it somehow, sometimes, if I hadn't been given the cannonball.

It's hard to beat a derailleur for light weight and many gears and quiet.
Not to mention mechanically obvious operation and repair/adjustment. But
then, I learned to shift on a Schwinn-approved Huret Alvit.

Maybe I should just get another frame or two...

On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 1:19 PM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Forgot to add: I have a very nice looking SA AG that is simply too heavy
> for my taste; if my brother doesn't want it -- he has right of refusal --
> it will be available for sale.
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 1:18 PM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Phil: sorry to hear about the knee -- I gather from what you say that you
>> have been an inveterate fixed gear rider. My knees are to this point fine,
>> though I have to be careful about pushing them too long and hard and often
>> over long inclines, but as most of my riding is short distance -- say 11
>> miles out and back -- this hasn't been a problem. My main reason for
>> thinking of gears and freewheeling is simply energy: I no longer always
>> feel compelled to exert the energy required even to push a 70" gear several
>> miles uphill against a headwind with a load -- something much of my riding
>> requires. And I must admit that there is something to be said for flying
>> downhill in a tuck without having to flail my feet.
>>
>> I have heard good and bad things about the S3X, but I've decided that if
>> I do go with multiple gears it will be with the addition of a freewheel;
>> the coaster brake addition will be simply to avoid having to re-rig the
>> rear calipers on whatever bike or bikes I so convert -- my goal is one or
>> two additional, coastie/gearie rear wheels that I can, almost, just slap on
>> and ride. The S2C interests me but the gear difference is only 38%, meaning
>> that a 70" high would leave me with only a 50" low.
>>
>> We'll see. It may come to converting the Joe-built, gofast fixie, that
>> doesn't get ridden much, into a dedicated geared bike -- the '03 Curt will
>> stay as my main, load/light equipped fixed runaround.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Phil Bickford <phi...@sonic.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Patrick,
>>>
>>> It's a switch to hear you talking about gearing, although I've noticed
>>> over the last few years snippets of discussions of Sam Hilbornes and
>>> the Fargo, etc.
>>>
>>> I've had a more deliberate change in my use of fixed and single
>>> riding. Osteoarthritis discovered in my right knee not so long ago
>>> keeps me from standing and walking very far, standing in the pedals or
>>> pushing to hard on the flats.  It's a MAJOR bummer.  I spent twenty
>>> years working on the floor building sails so it's not exactly a
>>> surprise.
>>>
>>> Anyhow since my round town errand bike was a flip flop fixed coasting
>>> number I swapped over to 1x8. But I've been thinking about how all I
>>> use are 2 or 3 gears, and I would like to try fixed occasionally.
>>>
>>> So what about the fixed 2x and 3x hubs from Sturmey and Sachs?  One of
>>> the attractions for me is the hub can accommodate a thread-on
>>> freewheel thereby giving you an option to a coastee. But I think that
>>> puts the cabosh on a coaster brake yah?
>>>
>>> Anyone have experience with these hubs?  I was hoping to score a cheap
>>> rear facing rear drop-out bike
>>>
>>> Phil B
>>>
>>>
>
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