I know the no-FD feature was advertised in advance, but I'd file off the handle fasteners and put the FD on there if I had ordered one of the bikes. It looks it will be a very versatile and cool bike. Given that, I would absolutely want to keep the option of lever-shifting without having to get off.
-Jim W. On Dec 9, 2011, at 7:02 PM, Peter Morgano wrote: > Ok, I know I will get flamed but isn't an igh setup perfect for a casual > rolling flatlands bike like this? Especially if you want to go no front > derailer. > > On Dec 9, 2011 8:51 PM, "grant" <grant...@gmail.com> wrote: > It does seem nuts, but maybe I've overstated that point to make it > stand out. We don't need another multiversatile, do-it-all bike (it's > hard to improve on the bikes we have, in that way...I mean, I think). > True, it's not the bike for Japanesey apartments already crowded with > bikes and roomates, but the BR or RB or whatever it is...could easily > be an Albatross-bar bike, with a 9cm stem or a JoeSlacker bar bike > with a 12...the diff in stems is, I'd say, about 3cm, maybe 4cm. > Although I have a 12cm stem on it, the long tt, if anything, favors a > shorter stem. I wanted to test it with a longy, also as a way of > testing the sweebackedness of the handlebar. > It's main purpose is riding pavement of any length, but not too steep. > And if it IS too steep, it can handle that, too---just put a 24t ring > in front and a 36t cog in back. Descending on a long wheelbase is an > experience we should all have at least a few times. The WB on the BR > is a hair under 45 inches (WB is the only bike dimension I still think > of non-metrically). And...historically, 45-inches ain't that long. The > Worksman bikes we have here are about that, and for all their other > eccentricities that on paper suggest they shouldn't be (super slack > head tube, high bb), they're great descenders. > > I'm not sure the extra stays are required to stiffen the frame, > because I don't know how important it is for the frame to be rigid > back there (or anyhere, to a point). But they don't add enough weight > to worry about, and they call attention to the bike as a little > different, and I think they look kinda cool. (Which reminds me of a > Dolly Parton response to an interviewer's question, that didn't she/ > Dolly think all that makeup and the uplifts and all that made her look > like a hooker?--something along the lines of, "I hope so, because when > I was growing up, they were the prettiest girls in town!" > > On Dec 8, 7:54 am, chadk <chadknut...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Back to the frame. I understand that some folks don't like drop bars. > > > > Designing a bike around the to-be-finalized handlebars seems nuts to > > me. The consequences of this design: > > 1. Much longer top and down tubes (+5ish cm) > > 2. Much longer chain stays (+4ish cm) > > 3. Extra frame tube and stays required to stiffen frame > > 4. Slack head tube plus rather raked fork plus long chainstays > > results in a huge wheelbase > > 5. needs extra long stem > > > > The result is a HUGE frame. Of course it is heavier than a 'standard' > > bike, but it also takes more storage space and is more unwieldy for > > tight space manuevering (e.g. staircases). > > > > I don't doubt that Grant designed the bike to ride just fine, but > > those compromises are significant. > > > > How about designing a wacky, more comfortable bar with forward reach? > > > > -Chad > > Urbana, IL > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.