My experience with seat bags is that they essentially do not affect handling in any way I can detect. Rear rack trunks OTOH cause problems nearly no matter what.
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 7:11 PM, jimD <rasterd...@comcast.net> wrote: > I'll echo Patrick's observation. > My Riv custom is my most favorite handling bike of all time. > I have a Tournesol that's a front loader and fun to ride but takes more > concentration than the Riv. > That having been said, once I ride either bike for several days in a row I > get totally accommodated > to how they handle. > > My experience with my Riv is that it is very happy with a seat bag. In > addition to the seat bag I often add a bar tube and carry something less > than 10 lbs in the bar bag with minimal impact on handling. > I may not be particularly sensitive to handling nuances. My theory is, > ride what you brung. > -JimD > > On Nov 23, 2011, at 7:59 AM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > This was my experience exactly on the Sam Hillborne, both with all the > weight (no more than 35 lb in my case) in the back and even worse when some > of that weight was in the front in a bar bag (Ostrich, firmly attached by > decaleur to stem and front rack). Front low riders did slow the flop a bit > but made the steering feel very sluggish -- very *oddly* sluggish with 30 > lb divided evenly between the two: it was very hard to initiate a turn!. My > own solutions was to sell the Sam Hill and buy a Fargo, which handles > unobjectionably in all loaded conditions; but of course that is rather > drastic. I personally would also be interested in others' suggestions for > solutions. I expect finding the right mix of front/rear and high/low is one > area to investigate? > > Jan's experience of feeling more confident in mid, fast turn with a low > trail bike is interesting; perhaps it's simply lack of experience with > either or both kinds, but my own impression is that higher trail "corner as > on rails" bikes (Rivs) feel more confidence inspiring than the Herse -- not > that the Herse is bad, just not "ideal" -- it takes more concentration; one > is not as blithely and unconcernedly ready to "let the bike go." > > Now the trike seems to handle the same with or without a front load. > (That's a joke, Steve -- tho' it's true.) > > > On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:05 AM, allenmichael <allenmich...@mac.com>wrote: > >> I just did my first tour this past summer on a 56 Atlantis. The >> Atlantis was terrific except for climbing at very low speeds. I was >> carrying a lot of weight, about 65 lbs., and some of it was on the >> front. I had a riv high rider nitto rack with two loaded panniers and >> my wife's sleeping pad riding up there. >> >> At low speed, almost no speed, the front tire (and all of the front >> weight) kept wanting to flop over. The worst part of the trip, by >> far, was fighting with this weight and trying to keep the bike on the >> road under these conditions. To the point where I don't think I would >> take this bike again if I had to carry so much weight. >> >> Any suggestions, apart from carrying less weight or balancing it >> better or loading it lower? Other bikes? Other handlebar set-ups (I >> had noodle drop bars, just above the saddle)? Other tires (I had 1.75 >> Marathon Plus)? >> >> Thanks, >> Michael Allen >> >> >> -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRW > http://resumespecialties.com/index.html > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
