This is the first product I've seen that has potential for our rainy Pac NW Climate. Though temps here can drop as low as in Vermont during the winter, they don't stay there. Most gloves meant for "winter" use are too clammy for Portland use. OR makes an overmitt that can be used alone or with a heavier glove underneath, but the long wrist coverage makes it hard to use with a rain jacket for just everyday riding. This is the closest I've seen to something that might work. I think the thumb coverage still needs a little work; my thumbs get cold when left un/underprotected. But that's a minor quibble. Wish I'd seen these before I placed my Riv order last week. Beth in PDX, where it's gusting hard, 55F and raining sideways outside
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