Joe,
I'm convinced. All my other attempts (hacks) with various different versions of 
pliers have 
only resulted in beaucoup expletives. 

Plus I get a add another bike tool!

-JimD

On Nov 20, 2011, at 8:42 PM, Joe Bernard wrote:

> Don't waste your life with this..get the Park tool. It's wonderful.
> 
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