Carradice quality seems to have gone back and forth. I know that
recent Juniors have been made of the older, heavier fabric and I've
had at least one later model bag (Nelson, I think) that had the
drawstring neck but was still heavy fabric. This one is indeed a
Carradice but thinner and vinyl, as at least one other I've owned. As
you say, though, still a fine bag -- worked fine today with a huge
load of Mom's mail (overflowed from her POB) and a collection of
library books and DVDs). And the old Bananas, and my ex-Adam were
indeed the best.

On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Philip Williamson
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I have a "Schwinn Approved" large saddlebag that sounds a lot like
> your Camper. Compared to my Carradice Cadet, the straps are thinner,
> canvas is thinner, and the bottom is vinyl. Still a fine bag for the
> farmer's market, it's just not as sturdy-seeming. My Banana Bag
> (oldish Baggins by Duluth) seems nicer than either.
>
>  Philip
>
>  Philip Williamson
> www.biketinker.com
>
> On Oct 20, 9:24 am, PATRICK MOORE <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The straps are twisted but not "crimped" and I doubt the scheme puts
>> additional strain on them. I plan to carry heavy loads and, of course,
>> will keep an eye on them, but I've never had problems with unsupported
>> bags before. Even the Expedition model of the Bagman is rather too
>> short for my taste. And I hate, hate hate Cyclo loops (their sharp
>> edges may be another point against them, tho' I've never had any
>> problem with straps failing with them). Anyway, full circle from
>> saddlebags of all sorts with all sorts of mounting schemes and
>> devices, to racks and panniers and now back again.
>>
>> It's good to know that the more recent Carradices are back up in
>> quality. I know that there was a period when at least the larger
>> models were, as mine, not as good as the oldest ones.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 2:49 AM, newenglandbike <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> > I would recommend having a bagman support or other rack to support the bag
>> > under that lashing scheme.     It depends on how big the bag is and how
>> > heavy the cargo, but with bumpy, all-weather riding the leather straps will
>> > stretch/deform and eventually tear.    You really want to have an 
>> > attachment
>> > that accomodates the natural bend of the straps.   I have used Cyclo bag
>> > loops on loopless saddles before, which work OK, and a Nitto quick-release
>> > saddlebag attachment, which is awesome.
>>
>> > -Matt
>>
>> > P.S. I have a few carradice bags, mostly old (70's/80's) some newer (<10
>> > years) and recently bought a small barley bag for my girlfriend's bike.
>> > It is every bit as good as the old ones, if not better.
>>
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