On Wed, 2011-10-19 at 15:38 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: > On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Steve Palincsar <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-10-19 at 09:52 -0700, reynoldslugs wrote: > >> When I read the articles - - which are excellent - - I often wonder, > >> would the results and conclusions be the same for a 200+ pound rider? > >> Will the conclusions about tubing diameter, 8/5/8 versus 7/4/7, OS v > >> standard, planing versus non-planing, be the same for a big guy? > > > > I am your 0.1 ton test rider. I own two bikes that have appeared and > > favorably reviewed in BQ, a Velo Orange Randonneur and a MAP Randonneur > > Project. My bikes are slightly different from Jan's: 8/5/8 tubing vs > > his 7/4/7. Otherwise, my bikes are exactly as he describes. > > > > Both bikes were 1:1 frame replacements, the VO replacing a Rivendell > > Rambouillet, the MAP replacing a Rivendell Saluki. Both Rivs were 8/5/8 > > OS, the replacements 8/5/8 std diam. The difference climbing in both > > frames is notable. > > > > I just want to make sure I read this right - you've had an improvement > in climbing by going to std diam from OS tubing?
Yes. I found it impossible to "surge" the OS bikes up rises; I'd have to downshift-downshift-downshift or bog down hopelessly. With the std diam frames I can do a few extra-strong "large, round" pedal strokes and easily surge the bike up a slight incline, or "ride out of the saddle while still sitting down" - best way I can describe getting my butt off the saddle by about 1 cm, still riding mostly the way you do while out of the saddle while barely rising off the saddle itself; and when I do, the bike surges forward kind of like what happens when you squeeze a wet and slippery watermelon seed between your fingers and it shoots forward. This, I believe, is a manifestation of "the 'P' word." -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
