Joe,

Your explanation is very logical, at least for motorcycles where the machine
itself is quite heavy. I'm just wondering if for a light bicycle, where the
rider weight is so much higher, placing the load closer to the wheels
actually achieves the same purpose. I'll have to try it next time, but it's
how the touring loading has evolved over time and I assume it's for a good
reason.

I'm no expert, so just speculating...

René

Sent from my iPhone 4

On Oct 8, 2011, at 9:04 PM, Joe Bernard <joerem...@gmail.com> wrote:

It probably has something to do with polar moment of inertia. Back in the
day, Honda attempted to make their GP race bikes handle better by putting
all of the weight - including the gas tank - as low as possible, and
discovered they were hard to turn. It turned out the bike had a "middle"
that the rider on top, and the wheels below, moved around. By putting most
of the bike down around the wheels, the rider was forcing what amounted to
much heavier wheels to the right as he was leaning left. In the next design,
they centralized the mass in the handlebar/gas tank/seat plane, with the
rider as the lighter "top", and the wheels as the lighter "bottom".

Having most of the mass in the middle - around seat height - made for better
handling because the heaviest parts were "neutral". We think the wheels stay
in a stationary position, while the rest of the bike/rider leans from that
axis, but it's not true. As you lean into a corner, the wheels drift the
opposite way as a counterbalance. Therefore, loading the bags closer to the
rider's seat means that mass stays put while the extremities of rider and
wheels pivot around it. Make sense?

Joe Bernard
Fairfield, CA.

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