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  Today's Topic Summary
Group: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/topics
        * Bike Repaint Update - NOS orig decals found. [3 Updates]
        * Lights, lights, lights [3 Updates]
        * Tandems & Mixtes and Price Hikes, Oh my! [4 Updates]
        * NYC S24O [4 Updates]
        * touring article on bloomberg [1 Update]
        * Hennessy Hammocks for bike camping [2 Updates]
        * So...sick...of...flats....UGH! [2 Updates]
        * Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas [2 Updates]
        * Any Soma San Marcos Owned? [1 Update]
        * Pictures of Sammy [3 Updates] 
 Topic: Bike Repaint Update - NOS orig decals found.
Bruce Herbitter <bruce.herbit...@gmail.com> Sep 02 10:40AM -0500 ^

 
Needless to say, I am very pleased to find these 1st year decals for my Road
Standard. The originally estimated 6 - 7 weeks schedule is however wring by
at least 1/2. I shipped the bike on 6/15 and they think work on it will
start in about 2 more weeks. "You can't hurry love," as the song goes, or
bike paint shops either.

 
Bruce Herbitter <bruce.herbit...@gmail.com> Sep 02 12:43PM -0500 ^

 
Joe:
The painter is Airglow Bicycle Painting in Georgia. They got the decals for
me, I think via another paint shop. I imagine they stay in touch and send
things back and forth.
 
Nathan:
I went back and forth on a number of colros and ended up staying with the
original blue (which also sort of shows up on Romulus and Bleriot) but with
cream lugs, crown, and BB. The crown details will be in the blue. The lugs
don't have windows, or they would be blue as well.
Pictures WILL be forthcoming.
 
 

 
islaysteve <alkire...@verizon.net> Sep 02 03:32PM -0700 ^

 
I've had a bike done by Airglow!  Great work, and great to work with.  I 
will eagerly await pix.  I can identify with you on going back and forth on 
colors.  Every car you look at is a potential color.   Somewhat ironic about 
the decals, I was wondering the same thing, if I ever do something so 
foolish as to repaint my Bleriot (only wouldn't want the Bleriot decals). 
Congrats and I hope you get your bike ahead of schedule!  Steve

  
 Topic: Lights, lights, lights
"Scott G." <sco...@primax.com> Sep 02 02:15PM -0700 ^

 
Patrick, I included the Cyo official mount for the fork crown
and the VO mount that fits on the rack eyelet.
 
Whilst on light mountology, anyone mount a Supernova E3
to Nitto m12 ?, did you the multimount or some other widget.
 
Scott

 
Thomas Lynn Skean <thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net> Sep 02 03:19PM -0700 ^

 
Hi! 
 
Do you know of a good place on the web to order smallish quantities of the kind 
of aluminum stock you used for your light?
 
Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

 
PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> Sep 02 04:27PM -0600 ^

 
No; I bought a 6' length at True Value. I could have used 1 cm wide
stock instead; I bought the 2 cm stuff for another project.
 
IIRC, the 2 cm stock was about $8 to $10 for 6'.
 
Tell ya what: send me your address and I'll send you 6".
 
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean
 
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 Topic: Tandems & Mixtes and Price Hikes, Oh my!
CycloFiend <cyclofi...@earthlink.net> Sep 02 08:05AM -0700 ^

 
>From this morning's Knothole post -
 
http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/376
 
The afore-warned, yen-caused price increases go into effect next week, but
we've got one last weekend to nab in stock stuff at the old levels.  And for
folks who were hoping for another chance at the Glorius-level mixte, there's
a short run a-comin'!
 
However, the thing that caught my eye was item #7 - the tandem design is
getting to that final phase:
 
"7. So is a super limited number of tandems. One fellow is interested. I
forget your name. If you're reading this, contact me (grant) the same way
you did last time. I'm almost finished with the design, and have a few
questions, before I can finish and getcha-a-quote."
 
I know that a number of folks herewith have been wistfully wishing for a
twin rider Rivendell option, and it seems like it's closer than it's been in
a while. 
 
So, while you make ready to head out this weekend (or whatever your plans),
you might give a quick email/call to GP if you are interested.
 
Ride safe, all you fine folks!
 
- Jim
 
-- 
Jim Edgar
cyclofi...@earthlink.net

 
Seth Vidal <skvi...@gmail.com> Sep 02 11:07AM -0400 ^

 
> a while.
 
> So, while you make ready to head out this weekend (or whatever your plans),
> you might give a quick email/call to GP if you are interested.
 
Already sent in an email this morning. Hoping to hear back more soon.
 
The stoker and I are coming up on our 10th anniversary and a riv
tandem would be a lovely 10th present to give each
other a new tandem.
-sv

 
JL <subfas...@gmail.com> Sep 02 11:27AM -0700 ^

 
I have been lusting after a tandem for some time.  These riv models
will no doubt be wonderful. Semi-custom I would assume.  650b for most
sizes and a 700c model to accommodate a tall size model would be my
guess.
 
Seth, what a nice present to celebrate your 10 year.  I hope that
works out and you get to add another riv to your fleet.
 
I am interested in hearing some sage advice from previous tandem
owners  - anyone willing to email me off-list a used tandem buyer's
guide?
 
Anyone have information about new tire possibilities?  2 650b tires
and 2 others from the news reports.
 
JL
 
 

 
Joe Bernard <joerem...@gmail.com> Sep 02 12:02PM -0700 ^

 
The "mystery HS" bike is driving me crazy. I want to know what it is now!

I noted that Grant says someone emails to complain every time he mentions 
the dollar/yen conundrum. Why would someone waste their life bothering him 
about that? Not only is it annoying (I assume), but it amounts to "whining 
about whining". That's some irony right there, people.

Joe Bernard, living ironically in
Fairfield, CA.

  
 Topic: NYC S24O
Peter F <phfmu...@gmail.com> Sep 01 09:33PM -0700 ^

 
Highly interested but highly unlikely to get away with several big
deadlines this month and small kids at home. Keep us posted though so
those of us who can't go can fantasize about it, at least.
 
 
 

 
Alex <alexlem...@gmail.com> Sep 01 11:35AM -0700 ^

 
I'm also curious. I used to live in NY and couldn't quite figure out
where to go. I don't have a car, so maybe that was part of the
problem. Harriman state park is semi-accessible by train, but I
couldn't really see any trails suitable for bikes.
 
--Alex

 
mizrachi <mizrachi1...@gmail.com> Sep 02 09:56AM -0700 ^

 
Peter (et al.),
 
If you're interested, the trip is likely to happen in October.
 
 
 

 
Curtis Schmitt <curtisrschm...@gmail.com> Sep 02 01:29PM -0400 ^

 
I've gone bicycle camping at five separate locations across four trips
over the past couple of years, all directly from NYC:
•Bulls Island State Park in Delaware, NJ (on the Delaware River,
absolutely loved it)
•Washington Crossing State Park in Titusville, NJ (also on Delaware
but sites are inland a bit)
•Round Lake Reservoir in Clinton, NJ (all campsites are at the water's
edge, great place)
•Croton Point Park in Westchester County, NY (on Hudson River,
phenomenally beautiful, sunsets are spectacular)
•Heckscher State Park in East Islip, NY (Long Island, very close to
beach but sites are not on water)
 
Of all of these, I'd say Croton Point Park is the ideal for an S24O.
It's about 45 mi each way and the route is mostly on an isolated paved
trailway between the admittedly sketchy Bronx section and the hilly
and busy suburban roads eight miles from the campsite. The trailway
part is awesome though. You can really hammer it, the asphalt is in
excellent condition and the tree canopy serves nice protection from
rain, sun and strong winds.
 
The worst on the list is Heckscher State Park and an S24O would be
hell. The route sucks because it goes straight through Queens and the
people at the campsite are ignorant undesirables, to but it bluntly.
90% miss the point, blasting music, blasting their portable TVs with
bad reception, drinking excessively and tearing in and out of the
parking area with their cars, etc. I will never return.
 
The rest of the campsites, really any campsite, will be as bad as
Heckscher on a holiday weekend such as Memorial Day and Labor Day.
 
Floyd Bennett Field is supposed to be pretty great, and I would have
gone, but the ranger wanted me to book the site IN-PERSON!!! She said
they did not take phone or web/email reservations. Not sure what's up
with that, but I have heard good things and of all of them it would be
by far the shortest distance since it's at Brooklyn's southeastern
edge.
 
I have a very crazy project schedule until my deadline the first week
in October, then I have a road trip planned for Quebec / Nova Scotia
later in the month, but camping is by far my favorite activity to do
with a bicycle, so I would do whatever I could to join in on the fun.
 
Curtis
 

  
 Topic: touring article on bloomberg
keeple <tomsmi...@ymail.com> Sep 01 09:55PM -0700 ^

 
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-01/bike-bags-bulge-with-tent-spirit-stove-for-alpine-culture-camping-travel.html

  
 Topic: Hennessy Hammocks for bike camping
John Speare <j...@phred.org> Sep 01 02:29PM ^

 
There's lots of Hennessy stuff online to check out, but if your deal is 
S24O/bike touring with the hammock, check out Alex Wetmore's stuff: 
http://alexwetmore.org/?p=1149
 
He's fine-tuned the Hennessy set up into an art. I've gone camping with him a 
few times -- deployment takes about 3 minutes. The trick (not his, but it's 
documented well) is here: http://alexwetmore.org/?p=610
 
 
John Speare
Spokane, WA
http://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com
 
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From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] on 
behalf of Kris [kkjellqu...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 5:21 AM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Re: Hennessy Hammocks for bike camping
 
Timely discussion as I just purchased an Expedition Asym.  I have only
set it up in my back yard but I think I will really like it.  It HAS
to be better than a tent for me.  Not once have I slept well in a tent
without some sort of sleep aid.
 
I highly recommend watching all the setup videos, etc as it's not
idiot proof.  Also, I recommend the 'snake skins' accessory.  There is
at least one authorized dealer on eBay that offers free snake skins
and shipping.
 
K
 
 
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Philip Williamson <philip.william...@gmail.com> Sep 01 10:01PM -0700 ^

 
In Western Oregon, there are always trees, and usually wet ground. I
would've bought one already, but the price jumps considerably for
those over 6'. First I think I should try camping at all...
 
Philip
 
Philip Williamson
www.biketinker.com
 
 
 

  
 Topic: So...sick...of...flats....UGH!
jinxed <hbcl...@yahoo.com> Sep 02 07:51AM -0700 ^

 
If Big Apples would squeeze in the Hilsen....I'd be running them!
 
You really did hit the "thorn with tire" regarding ride vs. hassle. I tried 
out several of the Specialized Armadillo, and Bontrager Hardcase tires and 
came to the same conclusion. Yea they hold air, but wow do they ride poorly. 
The Bontys were better, but still bad. I came to the same conclusion and 
just stocked up on tubes and patch kits.
 
>From what I have been reading though, it appears that the Marathon Supreme 
does a good job with flat protection AND ride half way decent.

 
Philip Williamson <philip.william...@gmail.com> Aug 31 10:10PM -0700 ^

 
I was just this morning realizing how happy I am not to have
goatheads. Santa Rosa (CA) was loaded with them in the city, but I
never had a problem in Annadel Park. I set my wife's 3 speed up with
those super-fat thornproof tubes, which really helped. Before that, I
pulled 60 goathead spikes out of a tire before I stopped counting and
threw it away. I had many tires with 'stealth' goathead spikes buried
in the tread. They would puncture a tube, but only showed themselves
if you really bent the casing hard.
 
So that's another upside to living in Oregon.
 
Philip
 
Philip Williamson
www.biketinker.com
 

  
 Topic: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas
PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> Sep 02 08:15AM -0600 ^

 
It must be genetics. I don't doubt the efficacy of the Taube method,
but I've seen too many people who eat mostly carbs, sometimes polished
rice. My mother, after being diagnosed with type 2 diabetes over 10
years ago, and who also had one heart attack, switched to a very low
fat, low salt, high vegetable, lot of chicken and lots and lots of
rice (she buys rice in 20 lb bags) and has lost a great deal of weight
and kept it off, as well as helping her heart and blood sugar. (She is
Filipina.) I lived in both north and south India in the '60s, as a
boy, and the poor people ate mostly whole wheat (Delhi) and polished
rice (Bangalore) plus lentils, vegetables and a bit of fish or meat on
special occasions. Ditto in Karachi, Pakistan. In Kenya, where we
moved next, the poor ate mostly posho -- corn meal mush. Often the
women would be hefty, but rarely obese; them men less heavy (but
taller, of course). Add banana or millet beer or, for the townies,
Tusker. My ex parents in law are Taiwanese: noodles, steamed bread and
rice in abundance, tho' they being American now can afford more fish,
eggs and meat. Of course, all this lot -- Indians, Pakis, Kenyans,
Filipinos, Chinese -- are of a class that moves around a lot and often
does manual labor; and many of them can't afford to overeat even cheap
grains and lentils.
 
I dunno. I believe those who have said they gained weight on carbs,
lost them on no carbs. But there is the above for other people; not to
mention the Irish peasants who, I've read in more than one place, ate
(for the working man) an average of 11 lb of high glycemic (Mom won't
eat them) potatoes a day, with little else beside a bit of skim milk
and salt. I eat indiscriminately except I don't eat huge amount of
meat -- but lots of cheese -- and thank God am 20 lb heavier than I
was in college at the same weight (I could lose 10 or 15 easily but
I'd be pretty thin). One sister is like me on a largely vegetarian and
rice diet; another sister and my brother are heavier, but not obese,
on eclectic diets that include a lot of everything except meat (meat
is not foregone, just rare).
 
An interesting aside: reading the autobiography of Thomas Merton
(Seven Story Mountain) he describes living in rural France in the
1920s and '30s with his widowed artist father and he describes a
peasant wedding feast where no one ate anything except huge quantities
of a huge variety of meats, because they never ate meat for most of
the rest of the year. (He also describes the Tour coming through his
town, grinding up a dirt hill doubtless in a single gear, "with noses
almost touching their front wheels.")
 
 
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Patrick Moore
Albuquerque, NM
For professional resumes, contact
Patrick Moore, ACRW
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grant <grant...@gmail.com> Sep 02 07:52AM -0700 ^

 
A day or two ago I got a PM from a woman ... and I can't find it. Want
to reply. If you are she---well...you were pre-D with 110, now down
around 85, lost ten, energy issue. If it's you, that'll be enough to
trigger the mem...and then, send me again, please....sorry. Thanks. G

  
 Topic: Any Soma San Marcos Owned?
SamuelJames <samcoal...@gmail.com> Sep 02 07:48AM -0700 ^

 
I purchased one but don't expect to receive it until the end of September.

  
 Topic: Pictures of Sammy
Adam <oceanm...@gmail.com> Sep 02 07:25AM -0700 ^

 
Rex,
 
I am sure I could go one size up, and considered it very strongly for
some time, but this size definitely works.  It is great to have the
copious amount of standover height that I do, with a pbh of 84, as I
ride trails and tour loaded often.  The important thing for me was
changing my stem to have a greater amount of forward reach, now I've
found the sweet spot.
 
Cheers,
Adam
 

 
keeple <tomsmi...@ymail.com> Sep 01 09:58PM -0700 ^

 
Nice color!  And the cream head tube is a nice touch.

 
Frank Brose <fkbr...@gmail.com> Sep 01 03:56PM -0700 ^

 
Nicely done. I dig the front basket. I at one point in my life had an
Atlantis painted by D&D. He lays down some nice paint.
Tail Winds.
 

 
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