On Mon, 2011-08-15 at 10:18 -0700, CycloFiend wrote:
> On Aug 9, 7:41 am, Ely Rodriguez <elyk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I really would like to have a mixed permanente here in SF.
> 
> You'd have to check with Rob, but I think the issue in getting the
> permanentes officially recognized was that the route needs to be the most
> direct (or maybe it was "reasonably direct") means between points. There's
> something about the alternatives of paved routes that has prevented RUSA
> from recognizing them.

I raised your question with Crista Borras, RUSA Permanent Coordinator.
Here's what she said:

> 
> There are, in fact, many mixed paved/unpaved permanent routes.
> They just have to be controlled like any other permanent route.
> Sometimes, in fact, an unpaved road might be part of a more
> direct route.  It as a challenge to design an attractive route
> on scenic, quiet roads that is, in fact, "controlled"
> adequately.   
> 
> The route taken between controls should be as direct as possible
> to avoid the potential for shortcuts.  This is true regardless
> of whether a road is paved or unpaved.  
>         
> As a general rule the cued distance between any two successive
> controls should be no more than 10% longer than the most direct
> route between those controls, unless the more direct route
> incorporates roads that are illegal to cyclists (interstates or
> otherwise limited access roads), significant stretches of
> high-traffic, high-speed roads with no shoulder, unpaved roads,
> or roads that are dangerous to cyclists for some other good
> reason (e.g., a steep, twisty-turny mountain road with logging
> trucks, poor sight lines and no shoulder).  
>         
> Not every ride, of course, lends itself to a permanent route
> because to control it would mean having so many controls that
> the rider would have to stop so much that it would become an
> annoyance.




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