On Thu, 2011-07-28 at 16:51 -0700, Rex Kerr wrote:
> I've ridden bikes with friction shifting for more than 25 years, the
> majority of that with barend shifters.  I've had multiple bikes set up
> with Suntour shifters and seven speed clusters, and one set up with
> Shimano Ultegra shifters (always in friction mode -- I prefer friction
> shifting) with a 9 speed setup.  I've used both shaped and unshaped
> cogs, as well as floating and non-floating deraillers.  I share this
> information to demonstrate that I'm not new to friction nor
> barend shifting.
> 
> 
> So... based on the glowing description on the riv site I set up my new
> AHH with the Silver shifters that they sell.   I really like the look,
> but so far I've been having a horrible time shifting.  I always feel
> like I'm between gears, and I've had a few unpleasant experiences when
> the chain jumped when starting from a dead stop.

Generally that's referred to around here as "ghost shifting."  It
happened to me when I tried the original SunTour Sprints on an 8spd
Moulton.  I then used the same shifters on a Kogswell P/R set up with 7
spd Hyperglide, and shifting is great.

I believe the problem is 8spd is just too close for me to accurately
shift a system that doesn't give much auditory feedback for misalignment
like Hyperglide.

One thing that's been suggested a lot over the years is to swap the
upper and lower pulleys, so that the upper pulley is the one with no
float at all.

You might also try doing your downshifts with more load on the
drivetrain.  When I shift my Kogswell that way, the gears change with a
PLUNK, quite positively.  That's entirely counter to how you would shift
an old-time friction system.




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