I recently installed the Grand Bois Maes handlebar with a 9mm Nitto
stem (I usually ride a Nitto 11mm). The Brand Bois Maes are truly nice
bars and I recommend them highly for the same reasons as you. However,
I have Mark's bars on two bikes and I like them as much as the Grand
Bois Maes. The Mark's bars are substantially less costly!

On Jul 22, 10:45 am, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I recently raised mine, too, to about 1" below saddle from 2 or 2 1/2"
> below, but installing shallower (125 versus 140) drop and longer reach
> (115 versus 19), wonderful Grand Bois Maes copies on the same, 8 cm
> (Nitto) stems. Very nice! I can still get into a very aero position in
> the hoods and hooks -- something one needs to do if one rides fixed in
> our winds -- but the flats are much better and the much longer,
> flatter ramps are great for cruising.
>
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Karl Fundenberger
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> <karl.fundenber...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > My front brake cable was holding me back. When I swapped out the
> > short, long-reach stem that came on my secondhand Road Standard for a
> > tall, short-reach stem - I didn't change any cables. I realized after
> > about a year on the bike that I had apparently wrapped my bars
> > backward (the tape was starting to unravel), so I took the opportunity
> > to re-do the front brake cable.
>
> > I loosened the stem just to see if I had any more room - kept raising
> > - kept raising - and bam! There was the line! I fixed up the brakes,
> > re-wrapped in the proper direction, and tidied everything back up, and
> > wow - the riding experience really changed!
>
> > I had thought for a long time that this frame might be a little small
> > for me - I have just a little bit more than a fistful of seatpost
> > showing, and the standover is good- but I've been comfortable on
> > taller frames. I just really didn't like the feeling of riding in the
> > drops. But at the new height - I am comfortable in every position on
> > the handlebars. I think that Grant Peterson fellow must be on to
> > something...
>
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