I thought the Berthoud Touring was "THE ONE" til I did a 600K on it. It became 
unbearable after 300 miles. I think it's just a bit too narrow for me, 
especially once fatigue sets in and more weight gets supported by my butt 
rather than my legs. Back to the B17 for me, at least for long rides. I wish 
Berthoud would make a b17 copy since their quality and design (easy to 
dismantle and replace individual bits) is vastly superior, IMO.

Cheers,
Ryan

On Jun 23, 2011, at 11:19, Lee Chae <leec...@stanford.edu> wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Minh <mgiangs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> anyone have additional tips for setting up the berthoud?  it's still
>> pretty new, but i just can't get comfortable enough to go for a long
>> ride...
> 
> I have a B-17 Special on my Quickbeam and a Berthoud Aspin (touring
> model) on my multi-geared bike. Both have a similar drop of about 2 cm
> from the saddle to the bars. I find that I have to position the
> Berthoud saddle a little more level than I do the B-17, which has the
> typical nose-tilted-up set-up. FWIW, both saddles feel comfortable,
> though different, to me.
> 
> Best,
> Lee
> SF, CA
> 
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