On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 08:55 -0500, Tim McNamara wrote:
> 
> Strange to me.  I've ridden many miles on 23 mm tires of gravel.
> Unless the gravel is loose it's not a problem.  But then I grew up
> doing a lot of riding on gravel; I just keep going because it doesn't
> feel funny to me.  It's probably like the Belgians and cobbles- just
> what you're used to.  My grandparents lived on a farm in Michigan
> surrounded by gravel roads.  There are a bunch of gravel road
> enthusiasts around the Twin Cities, have their own mailing list and
> (appropriately enough) loosely organized rides.  I haven't gotten out
> to any of those, having previously had a lot of schedule conflicts on
> the weekends.
> 
> I've noticed that gravel used on roads is much larger than it used to
> be; when I was a kid gravel on roads tended to be fine grained (1/4"
> or smaller) and "locked down" pretty quickly but nowadays gravel seems
> to be 1/2" to 1" as a general rule.  The bigger gravel is less stable
> under a wheel.  Given the politics that erupt around gravel mining
> locally, it is possible that- like oil- we've used up a lot of the
> higher quality easily accessible resources.
> 
> IME coarser gravel needs bigger tires to avoid plowing through it and
> bogging down.

Agreed.  Also I find that being heavier than most, even 25mm tires are
very unsatisfactory for me on gravel roads: they skitter around and feel
very unsteady.  The wider I go, the more planted the bike feels and the
more secure I am.

I was very surprised when I switched from CdlVs to Hetres and did the
same gravel road descent and found that where I'd initially felt as
though I was riding ten tenths at around 12 mph with the CdlVs that with
the Hetres I was taking the same descents at 18-20 mph and feeling all
laid back and casual.



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