"Herculean efforts" was hyperbole.  If you can't imagine hyperbole,
then should I assume you really meant 'circus act with clowns'
literally?  Whoa.

I use friction shifting, too.  Is index "even easier"?  Yeah, I guess
(when it works), but friction shifting is tremendously easy, too.  I
prefer friction shifting on most bikes for various reasons, and prefer
index on other bikes for other reasons.  Do 'no lawyer lips' make
front wheel removal 'even easier'?  Yes, without question, but
removing a front wheel with lawyer lips is not difficult.

On May 10, 2:50 pm, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 14:41 -0700, William wrote:
> > I share your dislike for the lawyer lips.  I prefer that my bikes not
> > have them, and none of my current bikes do have them.  That said,
> > counting backwards in time, the last 5 bikes that I've owned that came
> > with lawyer lips left my possession with their lawyer lips intact.  My
> > point being that any relatively recent ex-mechanic has learned a long
> > time ago how to live with them, second nature, regardless of whether
> > somebody thinks that is a circus act.  Even for regular cyclists, the
> > extra effort of dealing with them is small.  I don't think that they
> > render a quick release to a wing nut or even a slow release.  I'd call
> > it a slightly-less-quick-release.  I'd wager there are far more
> > cyclists that refuse to put up with the herculean efforts associated
> > with friction shifting than there are cyclists that refuse to tolerate
> > lawyer lips.
>
> Well, there you are.  I don't mind friction shifting and can't imagine
> what "Herculean efforts" you might be referring to; and abhor and
> abominate Lawyer Lips and would not tolerate them for one second on any
> bike I own.  

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