I use Noodles on 3 bikes with 3 different stems.  The flex
characteristics out on the hoods is different for all three.  The Tech
DLX 11cm extension feels the flexiest.  It feels a lot less flexy now
that I have it about 3/4" below min insertion.  The Nitto Pearl 11 is
less flexy still, which I attribute to the still shorter quill.  Least
flexy of the three is the Nitto lugged, which is also the shortest
extension of the three, a mere 9cm.  None of the three would I call
objectionably stiff, nor would I call any of the three objectionably
flexy.  I have zero concerns about the strength of any of the three.

On May 6, 8:33 am, rperks <perks....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mike,
> I can say without question that it is my Tech Delux that moves around
> under torque loads.  I have the same RM013 bars on bikes with both
> different styles of stems. On my Rawland with the threadless setup you
> can feel the spring in the drops rotating primarily around the about
> the same axis as the bar tops. But on the Roado I have flex in the
> stem along the front to back axis of the stem extension before the
> bars start to give.  Enough that you can see it moving around on steep
> climbs.  I have been looking for an economical (read deal on Ebay)
> welded or lugged stem to compare, but most are either really short on
> extension, beat up or $$$$
>
> Rob
> -http://oceanaircycles.com/
>
> On May 6, 7:13 am, Michael_S <mikeybi...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Is he he sure it's the stem that's moving?  Based on the forces that
> > are applied rididng out of the saddle and the different cross
> > sectional areas, I would think that the bar is what's moving the most.
> > Both move some amount. I've never usd the taller Nitto Technomic stems
> > ( if that's what your son has) but on the Pearl model I've never felt
> > stem flex and I'm also larger than your son.
>
> > ~mike
>
> > On May 6, 6:24 am, "Bill M." <bmenn...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > Back in 1991 I bought a Cannondale (very stiff frame) that came with a
> > > standard quill stem.  I swapped it out for a hollow, welded stem that
> > > had a much larger diameter extension.  The first time I stood up and
> > > cranked the bike up a short steep rise I was astonished at how much
> > > stiffer the front end of the bike felt.  The quill stem was allowing
> > > the bars to twist, the new one wasn't.
>
> > > That may or may not be seen as a good thing, but I have no doubt that
> > > typical threadless stems are stiffer in torsion than traditional quill
> > > stems.
>
> > > Bill
>
> > > On May 6, 3:58 am, MichaelH <mhech...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > The new RR contains an article by GP outlining his believes about
> > > > various aspects of  bike strength, comfort, weight, and comfort.
> > > > There wasn't much new there for anyone who has followed him for a few
> > > > years, including why he prefers threaded headsets and stems, but it
> > > > did trigger this question from me.
>
> > > > My son, who is 39 years old and a very muscular 170 lbs claims that
> > > > he experiences stem flex while climbing with a traditional quill
> > > > stem.  I am always disinclined to challenge people's subjective
> > > > experience but I have never experienced this and suspect it is in his
> > > > imagination.
>
> > > > Has anyone here felt their stem flex and has anyone ever broken a
> > > > stem?
>
> > > > michael- Hide quoted text -
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