Concerning the detail differences between the two Atlanti, do you know
what they are? I don't remember seeing them discussed anywhere. Not
that it's here or there, but I think my Atlantis is a Waterford having
come (used) in a Waterford box but then that doesn't really prove
anything. I have a mild curiosity though either factory would be just
fine.

On Mar 20, 12:21 pm, CycloFiend <cyclofi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> on 3/20/11 7:38 AM, Khalid Mateen at krm2...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I do not want to start a fiery debate about this but what makes japanese
> atlantis built bicycle superior to the American made ones?  Just curious. 
> When there was an announcement that Rivendell would no longer have the Toyo
> plant build their bicycles, people with money to spare went after the last
> batch of those frames.  It is the steel?  The craftmanship?
>
> Not sure I agree with your supposition about one being superior.
>
> Grant has posted/written a number of times about the excellent quality of
> both Toyo and Waterford.
>
> There are a few stylistic differences between the builds, but nothing which
> seems to change the functionality.  That may cause someone to compare and
> say, "given the choice, I prefer that one..."
>
> There has been some discussion of this.  If you go back through the group
> archives, you'll probably find as many people who want to buy a us-built Riv
> as want to buy the "last of" the Toyo frames. But, as I said to start, I
> don't recall anyone making the case for one being superior.
>
> - Jim
>
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