Ummm....what?

On Feb 25, 10:30 am, Kelly Sleeper <tkslee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thing is, to make my 700x50's as fast as 700x23's I need to air the 700x50's 
> up to the same harsh ride.  I can never get the 700x23's as comfortable 
> though as I would pinch flat.  
> Take into account that tiny tires usually go with tiny wheels and spin weight 
> does make a difference.
>
> My opinion is that 700x25's are probably faster at x weight bike rider than 
> 700x23 but 700x28's are not faster until weight is increased. If I weigh 
> 75lbs 700x23's are probably faster .. Lighter. More aero etc.  Not until we 
> add weight and side wall flex will larger tires be faster.
>
> Then again if I save 15 minutes over a 25 mile ride have I really lost 
> anything?
>
> Touring and tires and bikes and we still want to talk weight and speed.  I 
> don't get it.  I do but I keep reminding myself that it's not a race.  Only 
> place I lose speed is all out efforts casual rides i se e no difference.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 25, 2011, at 12:14 PM, Montclair BobbyB <montclairbob...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
> > William you're too funny... I'll make an unscientific guess that
> > you'll be ever so slightly faster on the 700 skinnies, but not nearly
> > enough to offset the comfort and stylishness of the Hetres.  Please
> > post pictures of both...
>
> > BB
>
> > On Feb 25, 1:04 pm, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> OK so I made a sort of self-indulgent mod to my A. Homer Hilsen.  I
> >> set up the normally 650B bike with a 700C wheelset and short reach
> >> brakes.  It's a wheelset I already had, and a short-reach brakeset I
> >> already had.  So now I have a single bike that can easily be taken on
> >> a ride with 650Bx(whatever) tires one day, and taken on the same ride
> >> with 700x(23-28) tires the next, or whatever.
>
> >> I bought the bike because of the feel of 650B, and I'm thrilled with
> >> it.  Like most of you, I've been skeptical of the claims from Jan H
> >> and others that fat tires are faster.  That said, on brevets in the
> >> last couple of months, I've been surprised at how quickly I catch and
> >> pass riders on coasting descents when I'm on 650x38 at 50psi and they
> >> are on 700x23 and I presume 90-110psi.  That's anecdotal, and doesn't
> >> necessarily mean anything, but it was surprising.
>
> >> So, now I think it will be fun to do a pseudo-scientific spot
> >> comparison between 650B and 700C.  My commute to work is a 35-mile
> >> hilly ride through the east bay hills from El Cerrito to South
> >> Hayward.  A good chunk of that is a non-stop stretch.  I can usually
> >> get from my front door to a traffic signal in front of Castro Valley
> >> High School without stopping or putting my foot down.  The next 10
> >> times I do this commute, I'm going to alternate between the two
> >> wheelsets, and record my time for the same non-stop stretch for these
> >> ten rides.  The 650B tires will be hetres at 50/45psi, and the 700C
> >> tires will be continental gatorskin 28s at 85/80psi.
>
> >> Anyone care to guess which will seem faster?  Too close to call?
> >> Impossible to test unless the rider is blind to the wheel
> >> configuration?  Any advice on keeping the data clean?
>
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