April will be warmer and depending on the weather maybe too hot.  The
3rd dirt section was the best in my opinion. I was too busy trying to
hang on to Dustin on that section so I didn't take many pictures.  I
think those sections would be best with a 35mm cross tire or a Hetre.
Of course the final road sections were perfect for the Jack Browns.

~Mike

On Feb 15, 4:47 am, jim phillips <thefamil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Beautiful terrain and beautiful bikes!!
>
> JimP
>
> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 20:33:10 -0800
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Riv Ride - Feb 12 in SD
> From: cyclotour...@gmail.com
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
> Hi John, it's a great route I would encourage you to take. Just be aware of 
> the singletrack you're going to need to take at mile 20.6.  It's not marked 
> at all, so you have to be on the look out for it.  That's where the 
> hike-a-bike section begins.  That's just for ~half a mile though.  
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/5441062476/
>
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 8:08 PM, doug peterson <dougpn...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> John:
>
> That would be it.  Mile 29.4 is where David, Jenny & I bailed out.  We
> took the left while the rest of the group continued on the route.  You
> can see how that connects to the outbound route around 15.  We then
> headed back up course & made a left at the intersection that's 12.7
> outbound & 44.7 returning. We got a total of 42 for the shorter
> version.
>
> Carry plenty of food & water.  Take a look at the posted photos.  We
> had some high quality hike-a-bike sections.  Caution:  Hills may be
> steeper than they apperar in photos!  Great ride.
>
> When do you plan to be in San Diego?  I'm a bit north, Orange County,
> but get down there often.  Maybe we could do this ride; I'm curious
> about the part I missed.
>
> dougP
>
> On Feb 14, 7:47 pm, John Speare <johnspe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Can someone who went on the ride verify that this is the map for the 
> > route:http://ridewithgps.com/routes/252276
>
> > I'll be in SD in April and this sounds like a perfect day ride.
>
> > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 7:35 AM, Esteban <proto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I have some photos up from my camera phone - and a write-up on the
> > > blog:
>
> > >http://veloflaneur.wordpress.com/2011/02/14/all-tires-welcome/
>
> > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/sets/72157625919265243/
>
> > > The route is worth studying for anyone planning a vacation in San
> > > Diego. Wow!  Thanks, Dustin!
>
> > > Esteban
> > > San Diego, Calif.
>
> > > On Feb 13, 7:55 pm, doug peterson <dougpn...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > Some of the most interesting "roads" aren't paved.  And we saw some
> > > > pretty interesting stuff yesterday!
>
> > > > You're correct David; your tire was just low, not flat.
>
> > > > dougP
>
> > > > On Feb 13, 5:53 pm, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > That's my favorite response!!!
>
> > > > > On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Michael_S <mikeybi...@rocketmail.com
> > > >wrote:
>
> > > > > > I was a little worried in riding the rock gardens on the 2nd half of
> > > > > > the ride on the Jack Brown greens....Dustin led us on on some pretty
> > > > > > rough stuff... but I escaped with nary a scratch.   Some hiker we
> > > > > > passed was pretty amazed we were on that trail on "road" bikes.
>
> > > > > > ~Mike
>
> > > > > > On Feb 13, 1:45 pm, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > How 'bout "Zero flat repairs"?  Slow leaks that had to be topped
> > > off
> > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > count!  :-)
>
> > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 1:16 PM, doug peterson <dougpn...@cox.net>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Sorry I had to leave before the main group finished.  That was 
> > > > > > > > so
> > > much
> > > > > > > > fun we need to start planning the next event.  Hey, everyone 
> > > > > > > > must
> > > have
> > > > > > > > gotten the tire thing worked out:  ZERO flats, right?
>
> > > > > > > > dougP
>
> > > > > > > > On Feb 13, 8:03 am, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > And once again, we've been able to have another great ride in
> > > SoCal!
> > > > > > > > > Yesterday we had 10 riders, which was a really good showing.
> > >  Five
> > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > > local to SD, the rest had to drive a couple hours to get 
> > > > > > > > > there.
> > >  The
> > > > > > > > route
> > > > > > > > > was a combination of suburban roads, country back-roads, 
> > > > > > > > > graded
> > > dirt
> > > > > > > > roads,
> > > > > > > > > sections of single track, rutted and eroded hike-a-bike, seven
> > > mile
> > > > > > > > > uninterrupted downhills @ 30 mph, and rural country 
> > > > > > > > > stores/used
> > > car
> > > > > > lots.
>
> > > > > > > > > Pix to prove we were there:
> > > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/
>
> > > > > > > > > Huge THANKS to Dustin for planning the route and hosting us at
> > > his
> > > > > > house!
> > > > > > > >  A
> > > > > > > > > great meal of Nepalese food was waiting at the end for us!!!
> > >  Good
> > > > > > stuff!
>
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 3:16 PM, doug peterson <
> > > dougpn...@cox.net>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Jim:
>
> > > > > > > > > > Same old 35 mm Marathon Supremes as before.  Got a brand new
> > > set of
> > > > > > > > > > 40s from Riv a while back but too lazy to change tires right
> > > now.
> > > > > > > > > > Besides, the 35s still have tread showing!  No worries.
>
> > > > > > > > > > I think anything made in a 40 should be tough enough.  In my
> > > case,
> > > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > > > > the weak link; the bike & tires can handle things I can't.
>
> > > > > > > > > > dougP
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Feb 8, 2:11 pm, James Warren <jimcwar...@earthlink.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > What tires, Doug? I think I'm going Marathon Extreme
> > > 700x40.
> > > > > > Under
> > > > > > > > Silver
> > > > > > > > > > sidepulls on Hillborne with Bullmoose! 12-36 rear cassette.
> > > I'm
> > > > > > pretty
> > > > > > > > > > excited. We'll see if my 1300 ft. daily climb over the past
> > > month
> > > > > > and a
> > > > > > > > half
> > > > > > > > > > will be enough.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > -Jim W.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > >From: doug peterson <dougpn...@cox.net>
> > > > > > > > > > > >Sent: Feb 8, 2011 2:48 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > >To: RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > >Subject: [RBW] Re: SoCal Riv Ride - Feb 12 in SD
>
> > > > > > > > > > > >Pumped up the tires on the Atlantis just a couple of 
> > > > > > > > > > > >weeks
> > > ago
> > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > > > >they're probably just right for this ride.  3 water
> > > bottles plus
> > > > > > > > > > > >groceries in the Acorn & I'll be ready to go.  Looking
> > > forward
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > >seeing the paint job on the Protovelo.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > >dougP
>
> > > > > > > > > > > >On Feb 7, 9:46 pm, Michael_S <mikeybi...@rocketmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >> the Ram is fairly dusty still (from all the dirt 
> > > > > > > > > > > >> trails)
> > > but I
> > > > > > > > will be
> > > > > > > > > > > >> there BaE @ 1000am ( earlier no doubt).  Nice to have a
> > > bail
> > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > > > > >> option in case the body doesn't perform as expected 
> > > > > > > > > > > >> too.
> > > That
> > > > > > week
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > >> the Yucatan didn't help my training regimen nor did the
> > > cold I
> > > > > > > > picked
> > > > > > > > > > > >> up down there.
> > > > > > > > > > > >> ~Mike
>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> On Feb 7, 9:12 pm, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com
>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > Gentle-Folk of the Wheel, this is your friendly
> > > reminder to
> > > > > > drop
> > > > > > > > > > everything
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > and get out for a ride this Saturday!  Should be 70
> > > and
> > > > > > Sunny,
> > > > > > > > so no
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > excuses.  There's a good bail out option if the
> > > mileage and
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > distance
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > seems too much.  Yours truly might have to consider
> > > that as
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > spent
> > > > > > > > > > the last
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > two weekends earning spousal credit points rather 
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > than
> > > doing
> > > > > > > > > > intervals as
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > suggested.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > More conversation including directions, links to maps
> > > and
> > > > > > que
> > > > > > > > sheets
> > > > > > > > > > over on
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > flickr:
>
> > > > > >http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_soc
> > > .
> > > > > > > > ..
>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > Hope to see a bunch of you there!  Maybe bring a six
> > > pack of
> > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > > fave
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > beverage for post-ride celebration!
>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Esteban <
> > > > > > proto...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > Folks - This is going to be a real treat.  Some of
> > > the
> > > > > > > > attributes
> > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > our back country are: 1) fairly close to downtown
> > > San
> > > > > > Diego -
> > > > > > > > our
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > starting point is about 12 miles east of the
> > > gleaming
> > > > > > > > waterfront;
> > > > > > > > > > 2)
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > Its really wild out there on the trails - no
> > > spa-style
> > > > > > hikers
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > dog
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > walkers (no offense intended), just rugged country
> > > and
> > > > > > > > surprising
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > wilderness; 3) wide open country roads with
> > > breathtaking
> > > > > > > > vistas of
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > mountains, Mexico, desert, ocean, etc.  This will 
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > be
> > > > > > > > completely
> > > > > > > > > > worth
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > the trip. Here's the photoset of the ride that
> > > Dustin
> > > > > > curated
> > > > > > > > last
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > year:
>
> > > > > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/sets/72157623972790726/
>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > This ride won't be quite as alpine, but we have 
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > good
> > > beer
> > > > > > > > here,
> > > > > > > > > > too
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > (the famous, tiny, Alpine Brewery is not far off
> > > this
> > > > > > route),
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > sure we'll include some in our activities for the
> > > day if
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > wish
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > partake.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > I'm hoping to run the freshly-painted Protovelo 
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > with
> > > > > > Hetres,
> > > > > > > > > > topped
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > perhaps by Albatross bars for pure fun.  We'll see.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > No one's left behind, but there will be bail-out
> > > options.
> > > > > > > >  Would
> > > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > worth a trip for disaster-prone Southern
> > > California-ians.
> > > > > > > >  Perhaps
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > worth a trip for folks further out!
>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > Esteban
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > San Diego, Calif.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > On Jan 4, 10:08 am, cyclotourist <
> > > cyclotour...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > February's planned ride lets us get inland a bit,
> > > as
> > > > > > well as
> > > > > > > > > > giving the
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > SD
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > crowd have a break from traveling (the price of
> > > living
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > paradise).
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > >  It's
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > shaping up to be a 50+ mile mixie, over mostly
> > > back
> > > > > > roads
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > ~30% dirt
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > content guaranteed.  A chunk of climbing, so work
> > > on
> > > > > > those
> > > > > > > > > > intervals!
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > >  Hope
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > the North LA & Ventura crowd can make it down
> > > there!
> > > > > >  We're
> > > > > > > > > > going to try
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > meet up @ 9:00 to get on the road by 9:30
>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > A route map and some more specifics can be seen
> > > here:
>
> > > > > >http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_soc
> > > .
> > > > > > > > ..
>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > As with all these rides, expect to meet some
> > > really
> > > > > > great
> > > > > > > > folks
> > > > > > > > > > and put
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > faces to  names, as well as to see some beautiful
> > > areas
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > SoCal
> > > > > > > > > > that you
>
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