Thanks, Gary, that is good to know. I will heft away worry-free.

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Gary <[email protected]> wrote:
> Patrick,
>
>  On the ortliebs, I've been using the strap on my front packer pluses
> for just that purpose. 4 years heavy use and never an a problem with
> the attachment, springs, strap or inserts for racks. I've crashed
> twice, once into a boulder on a dirt track where the bag went flying
> and the fender wrapped. The bag just clipped right back on as if
> nothing ever happened, the fender .............. I even hoist the bags
> up with a rope, using the strap-handle-release-thing, up trees to keep
> the varmints from eating holes (it's happened to me), but never an
> issue using the strap to lift a fully loaded pannier. My experience is
> that the system is very durable.
>
> Gary
>
> On Jan 29, 3:35 pm, PATRICK MOORE <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Not very long a ride today, just 13.44 miles per the Cateye, but a
>> good 1:05:37 in Cateye-displayed actual riding time, not counting,
>> probably, another 3 minutes or so waiting at lights. Why so slow?
>> Well, 12 out of the 13 miles was due north, west or northwest into a
>> gusty NW wind -- between the ABQ airport 12 gusts to 18 and the Double
>> Eagle ap 18 gusts to 24; moreover, the last six miles included 5 of
>> climbing, some of it moderate but still requiring at least 3 miles of
>> standing overall; and this with a 17-18 lb load in the rear, all in a
>> 69" gear. So, probably, a clock-stopped average of just shy of 12 mph
>> -- not that this did also include some walking around the PO and the
>> grocery store, so let's just say 12 mph clock stopped, not counting
>> time spent at PO, grocery store or pissoir. Kent Peterson speed, tho'
>> hardly KP distance.
>>
>> The newly, Berthouded, very lovely '03 Riv fixed gear commuter.
>> (*Such* a lovely bike -- the very similar gofast doesn't get ridden
>> much by comparison.)
>>
>> Still, there is pleasure in such grunting, uphill, contra-wind, loaded
>> efforts, if one knows to start out slowly (check) pace oneself
>> (check), stand for longish periods (check), ride for several miles at
>> a stretch in the hooks of low bars (check) and -- AND -- to keep one's
>> distances short (check). And, of course, I am quite out of shape, not
>> having ridden much at all in December and early Jan. And I'm old. And
>> I'm fat. And I'm lazy. And and and -- seriously, not fat.
>>
>> Question about Ortliebs: My small front mini Packers don't have
>> handles separate from the strap that activates the hook lock. Will I
>> damage them by using this to heft them when packed with 10 --15 lb?
>>
>> --
>> Patrick Moore
>> Albuquerque, NM
>> For professional resumes, contact
>> Patrick Moore, ACRW at [email protected]
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