I am the last one to comment on this but maybe I can learn something. I was under the impression that the geometry was mandated by Rivendell period. I know on the AHH the only differences were things like 2 water bottle cage mount vs three, a nice paint accent on the fork on one and not on the other and paint color. So Geometry and tube thickness etc for ride is at a spec and the same regardless of who made it. Just my impression..:) I have no clue if I'm right... but then truth being the satisfing representative of the holder what difference does it make it's true.. or spelled correctly. Kelly
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