I bought a "Riv-sized" Rambouillet, and felt exactly the same way.
Sold it, built my own frame, and all is right with the world.  I don't
know if it's because of my racing background (I was certainly no LA,
but I raced through my teens) or being used to having plenty of crotch
clearance with mountain bikes, but having the top tube right up in my
junk wasn't a good feeling.

Pete

On Jan 22, 11:41 am, JimP <thefamil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>    I have a Sma Hillborne which I absolutely Love. It is the best
> bicycle I have ever owned. Orange frame, Cream Delta Cruisers and
> Honjo hammered fenders. A Magnificent and Functional work of Art.
>
>    I can't help but think about another Rivendell at some point,
> perhaps an A. Homer Hilson or Atlantis. The question becomes whether
> or not to get a smaller frame.
>
>    When I ordered my Sam I did the best I could with measurements and
> read that most people buy frames too small for them. I ended up buying
> a 56 cm Sam with 700 tires. It feels great when I am riding BUT, when
> I stand over the top bar I am right on it, and I mean right on it. I
> lean the bike over when I get on, but at stoplights I do fine with one
> foot (toe) down. That suggests I should have gotten the 54 but the
> bike feels great when I am riding. I guess that shows you can adjust
> seat height and saddle position and come up with a bike that "fits"
> while mounted even IF it is too large.
>
>   So, if I ordered an AHH would you recommend a smaller frame? If so,
> what effect would there be, if any, moving back and forth between a 56
> Sam and a 54 AHH?
>
> Thanks for any thoughts.
>
> best,
>
> JimP

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