...and not in anyone of those situations listed below, will you find a Ty-Wrap 
used to secure metal to metal.

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On Dec 24, 2010, at 7:28 AM, Angus <angusle...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> 
> http://www-public.tnb.com/ps/pubint/index.cgi?a=heritage
> 
> From the Thomas & Betts web site:
> 
> "In 1958, Thomas & Betts secured a place in engineering history when
> it developed the Ty-RapĀ® cable tie to facilitate assembling wire
> harnesses in airplanes. In the first month, sales were $350. Today,
> Thomas & Betts sells hundreds of millions of dollars of cable ties in
> 14 colors, 15 designs, 10 materials and multiple lengths. T&B cable
> ties can be found on thousands of products ranging from motorcycles to
> spacecraft."
> 
> ...and bicycles!
> 
> I'm not sure about the specific inventor(s), but the company seems to
> be doing OK.
> 
> Thomas and Betts makes Ty-Raps with a metal "ratchet" (typically
> plastic)...I had not thought about this before, but there appears to
> be a hierarchy in the Zip-tie/Ty-Rap market.
> 
> No more cheap Zip-ties for me!
> 
> Angus
> 
> 
> On Dec 23, 2:44 pm, Beth H <periwinkle...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Dec 23, 2:16 pm, robert zeidler <zeidler.rob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> With no disrespect to anyone, especially during this joyous time, plastic
>>> ties on a +/- $4000.00 bike is just atrocious.  Learn the use of a few basic
>>> tools and use the correct fasteners.  For a "get-you-home" or temp repair,
>>> OK, but in the words of my first shop-teacher, it's "hack".
>> 
>> I suggest that while Rivendell definitely markets to the rider with "a
>> job and bicycle prorities", the underlying aesthetic of Rivendell
>> bikes is absolutely a loving and benign sense of "hack". For evidence,
>> I submit the old tan Atlantis flyer of several years ago, which showed
>> a number of Atlantii (??) in various types of build-up, with all
>> manner of baskets, zip-ties and other funkinesses on them. I'd also
>> look up Grant's multiple articles/photo essays on "Beausage" (a word I
>> still stumble over when I actually try to use it in a sentence because
>> it feels made-up), all of which practically glorify the bike that is
>> well-ridden, a bit dirty, maybe even a little dented and has paint
>> worn off the edges of the fork crown and all the stays.
>> 
>> While some folks may ride a $4,000.00 bike because it's spendy or
>> fancy, some folks may choose to ride a $4,000.00 Rivendell simply
>> because it's well-made, and durable enough to see them out. And for
>> those of us who fall into that category, there are lovely zip-ties.
>> 
>> I hope the inventor of the zip-tie didn't die broke.
>> 
>> Beth
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