Thanks Doug and Charlie for providing this missing ingredient... While
I am a big fan of science, I prefer philosophy to guide my riding
experience.

I ride, therefore I smile...

Peace,
BB

On Dec 15, 1:51 am, charlie <charles_v...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Right on Doug..........I enjoy coffee also. Glad to have contributed
> to the vernacular of cycling lingo. Confused as the word muddle is,
> that is exactly what we do when we ride with the idea that we must go
> ever faster from point A to point B on our bicycles or we just aren't
> doing it right. Unless I'm late for work, I could give a gnats poof
> how fast I am going. I took off my speedometer a year or two ago and I
> see more of where I am going now and that feels good. I like your
> philosophy of riding and coffee stops. Hopefully I too will find some
> like minded folks to share a coffee with.
>
> On Dec 14, 8:30 pm, doug peterson <dougpn...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I especially enjoyed Grant's notion that if cycling is fun, why would
> > one want to rush it?  "...muddle on..." has been a successful riding
> > technique I've enjoyed (thanks for giving it a name!) for quite a
> > while.  Hey, nothing like a good muddle on my Atlantis with no
> > particular place to go nor schedule to meet.  My touring buds & I
> > figured that any time our average speed was approaching double digits,
> > it must be time for coffee.
>
> > Muddle on!
>
> > dougP
>
> > On Dec 14, 7:09 pm, charlie <charles_v...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Actually a cyclist should gain weight in the form of muscle in his
> > > legs (horsepower) and lose body fat overall thereby increasing his
> > > cardiovascular efficiency. Aerodynamics influence speed more than any
> > > factor including power output of the cyclist but given a similar
> > > riding position between the two bicycles there wouldn't be much
> > > difference. Good hill climbing as most of us already know is the
> > > result of having low body fat, strong legs and huge lung and heart
> > > capacity. Champion cyclists are born and then trained. For the rest of
> > > us, we muddle on hopefully enjoying the ride in the process. I like
> > > Grants musing on riding fast............it makes more sense to just
> > > enjoy riding. If you can't keep up its probably not the bike and if
> > > your riding pals won't ride with you and insist on riding away then
> > > its time for new riding pals and a cold beer at the next stop. I like
> > > the South Butt clothing lines slogan...."never stop relaxin"! Thats
> > > what I intend to do. Life is short.
>
> > > On Dec 14, 3:09 pm, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 14:59 -0800, William wrote:
> > > > > I don't get why he repeatedly throws in that it might be better for
> > > > > the cyclist to lose weight than it would be for the bike to lose
> > > > > weight.  That wasn't part of his experiment.
>
> > > > He's a doctor.  Don't they /always/ recommend the cyclist lose weight?- 
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