Does anyone else have a Tubus with ridiculously wide spacing between
the bottoms of the legs? Is this intentional or is mine a freak of
manufacture? (as opposed to nature)

Gernot


On Nov 18, 10:52 am, Michael_S <mikeybi...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
> Patrick, you have it reversed. The Vega has a 25 kg load rating and
> the Fly only an 18.
>
> I had bought the Fly originally as I really like the single front
> attachment but returned it for the Vega as the width of the Fly is
> very narrow.
>
> They are both very nice racks.  I got my silver ones from one of the
> UK on-line sites at a quite a bargain price.
>
> ~Mike~
>
> On Nov 17, 4:20 pm, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I use the Fly, which looks very similar except that it's black and has
> > a single, seatstay bridge strut (and IIRC it might have a slightly
> > higher load rating) on two bikes and the Logo on the Fargo. Excellent
> > racks. I've carried 45 lb on the 12 oz Fly, and just now carried
> > almost 40 lb of groceries and things to Mom's. Very good racks and
> > very reasonable.
>
> > Tangent: riding fixed as I do most of the time, the Fargo being my
> > only multispeed and coasting bike, I am a bit disconcerted and feel a
> > bit guilty at how easy multiple gearing makes climbing steep hills
> > with a big load. The F weights a good 37 lb and, adding almost 40 lb
> > made a total bike weight this afternoon of over 75 lb. Nonetheless, I
> > twiddled up the very steep (40 mph downhill on a good day if you let
> > it all out) 4/10 mile hill up the side of the mesa to Rio Rancho in
> > the 36/34 at 5.5 mph with little difficulty compared to grunting up it
> > in a 65" or higher gear with load -- and usually, fixed, I walk the
> > last 1/10 mile steepest part, unless I am feeling good or have a wild
> > tailwind. And this was with massively heavy, 800+ gram, 12/16 psi 65
> > mm Big Apples on 800 gram, 45 mm SnoCat rims.
>
> > I don't want to get soft!
>
> > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Earl Grey <earlg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi,
>
> > > thought this would be of interest to the group. I have a Nitto mini
> > > front on my Sam, and had a Nitto Big Back for a while, which I just
> > > replaced with the Vega (in silver, ordered from Germany).
>
> > > Reasons for replacing the Nitto rear:
>
> > > 1. My Bombadil-riding friend coveted it. ;)
>
> > > 2. Overbuilt for my purposes.
>
> > > 3. The front stop on the rack interfered with my saddlebag (banana
> > > style), and didn't allow me to carry my Manduka yoga mat
> > > longitudinally (I tried once, but the rear overhang was too great).
>
> > > 4. I got the size L, but think the M would fit the 56cm Sam better
> > > (the L sits too far back), and all my other bikes would only fit the
> > > M. May get an M in the future for my Ibis tandem. Still the most
> > > gorgeous rack out there. Btw, the Riv site says M for up to frame size
> > > 54, but the drop down selector says up to 56.999. I would say the drop
> > > down is more accurate. Go for the bigger rack if you want it farther
> > > back, the small one if you want it closer to you.
>
> > > Reasons for settling on the Vega:
>
> > > 1. I wanted a light-weight, silver rack with a flat top that can take
> > > panniers on occasion.
>
> > > First impressions (photos 
> > > athttp://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/5185320523/):
>
> > > 1. Well-made rack, very complete set of bolts, etc., and great
> > > instructions (it's a German company, after all).
>
> > > 2. Silver paint not nearly as jewel-like as Nitto nickel, but much
> > > better than I was lead to believe by statements explaining why the
> > > silver isn't available in the States. Time will tell how it holds up.
>
> > > 3. Tubes much bigger in diameter than Nitto. Makes for a less elegant
> > > look, but should be very rigid. Tube walls are surprisingly thin.
>
> > > 4. Distance between drop-out mounts 165mm! I don't know if they think
> > > that Santana tandem owners make up the bulk of their customers
> > > (Santanas DO have 160mm rear hubs), but that's ridiculous. The rack
> > > came with spacers, and a warning not to bend the stays more than 15mm.
> > > I sighed and installed the spacers (see photos). Actually the spacers
> > > match the plastic stay clips of my Berthoud fenders well, so
> > > aesthetically this is fine, but I assume the spacing reduces the
> > > actual max payload, and it just seems like poor engineering. Or
> > > perhaps the extra triangulation outweighs the disadvantages of the
> > > longer bolts? Any opinions?
>
> > > 5. The top of the rack is quite narrow. I knew this, but was still a
> > > bit surprised. Not ideal for carrying 3 yoga mats sideways (I am a
> > > yoga teacher and bike-commute to private classes, so I need to bring
> > > mats for my students).
>
> > > 6. The seatstay connector attachments don't allow much outward
> > > rotation. I could just barely connect to the outer brazeons on the
> > > seatstays. No biggy, could have bent the rack stays but was too lazy.
>
> > > 7. The cutouts for lower pannier attachment hooks could be bigger, but
> > > at least they are there (the older version didn't have them). Also has
> > > attachments for fender stays, which is nice.
>
> > > All in all am very pleased with the purchase. Not a Nitto, but a good
> > > alternative between the Nitto R14 and the Nitto Big Back.
>
> > > Cheers,
>
> > > Gernot
>
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> > Albuquerque, NM
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