On Tue, 2010-09-28 at 19:03 -0700, MobileBill wrote:
> The questions: Could it be that cassettes and chain rings have become
> remarkably less durable in the past XX years? Are lightweight high end
> cassettes and chain rings more or less durable than lower end rings?
> Or have the indents and carvings on the hyperglide systems made
> components more vulnerble to wear? Is it that modern cassettes and
> rings are machine (laser?) cut whereas the old freewheels were hand
> cut? Any significant difference in manufacturers (shimano vs. sram?)
> Or am I just making this up?
>    The situation: I'm kind of appalled that I've managed to wear
> serious shark's fins in my middle, 36T, ring in fewer than 3,500
> miles. Cassette is just as bad. Should have changed em out a 1,000
> miles ago. Both are Riv standard issue, which is at the low end of the
> shimano scale (HG30), and would presumably be heavier and perhaps more
> durable than the super lightweights at the upper end of the scale (HG
> 70). It's a rough world on my commute, frequent stops and quick
> accelerations, grinding hills, frequent rains and lots of additional
> weight from computers, groceries and what not. But the transmission
> gets frequent maintenance, and I have freewheels and chain rings that
> are very nearly two decades old and still useable.
>    Implications: At this rate, I'm going to be replacing cassette and
> one to two chain rings (not to mention the chain) twice! each year on
> the beloved Saluki. Is it time to reassess whether cassette and chain
> ring improvements are really an improvement? Are there transmission
> components more appropriate for Riv riders who have little use for the
> racing style refinements of modern cassettes and chainrings?


I'm using those same Hyperglide components -- typically XTR (cranks) 
and XT, cassettes usually Ultegra or HG70 and have been doing so 
for quite some time.  I have tens of thousands of miles on chain 
rings, and I usually get many thousands of miles on chains and cassettes.
On the other hand, I used to get no more than 2-3000 miles on a
freewheel back in the 70s and 80s.



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