hi folks,

i'm looking at building up my next Riv in some road-ish configuration for a 
fast/light trainer.. this will probably going to be based on a canti-Rom (or a 
Roadeo), and i want to make good choices to help alleviate some knee problems 
i've had with my Sam Hillborne.

the Sam has a Sugino XD2 with 175mm cranks, and i experienced some rather bad 
ITB pain on the right side starting 60 miles into a century.  at the time i 
thought it was because i was clipped into the pedals and didn't have enough 
float, and while i do think some cleat mis-adjustment might have contributed, 
i've continued to have some minor pain in that knee all summer when doing short 
rides (6 miles) while using only platforms (after taking almost 2 months off 
riding to allow it to heal).

so i'm wondering if the Q factor and crank length are something i should change 
on my next bike.  

some relevant info - i'm 5'11 but with a pbh of 84.5 (rounded up a few mm), so 
i've got short legs and long torso.  in addition, i rode a 19" Gary Fisher 
Cobia 29er for the past few years and never experienced even a twinge of pain 
doing 12-30 mile rides, and ~ 75+ miles a week with clip-ins; the Fisher also 
had 175 cranks, and a Q-factor of 166.  I believe the Q on the SD2's are about 
the same (165), but i'm not sure what the BB width that came with the Sam is, 
so it's possible the Fisher had a larger effective Q...?

i'd like to go back to SPD clip-ins, as i never had a problem before my century 
ride last june, and based on some recent threads on this list, i'm planning on 
going with a shorter crank.. i'm thinking 170mm, as i doubt 172.5 will make 
much of a difference (but i'd love to hear dissenting opinions).  

also - anyone know how "typical" the Q the Sam with stock BB and SD2 is?   any 
advice on how to minimize ITB issues when setting up a Riv in a road-ish 
fashion?  i'm assuming i DONT want to go for a compact double with narrow Q, 
but might want to get a wider BB or a set of cranks with a larger tread.   

thanks,
andrew

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