I came to the LongLow game later, ordering mine in September 1998 and
taking delivery in August 1999. By then the LongLow was being offered
with canti braze-ons as standard. Since I wanted one-handed ease of
adjustment on tour, I ordered mine for sidepulls (and bought one of
the few sets of long-reach sidepulls available at the time).

In retrospect, I should've stuck with the cantis. The sidepulls with
fenders don't give me enough clearance for tires larger than 700 x 32
-- and that's a tight squeeze in the rear. I am contemplating paying a
local framebuilder to raise the brake bridge and add the canti braze-
ons so I can run a 35 with fenders.

The other option that occurs to me is to turn this frame into a go-
faster, more unencumbered sort of affair, and make my 26"-wheeled bike
more of a beats of burden. I'm playing around with ideas.

Still, the LongLow remains a good design and I'm glad I got it.
Beth

On Aug 30, 6:12 pm, "Bill M." <bmenn...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Doug has the details right, but IMO the defining characteristic of the
> LongLow was the standard reach sidepull brakes.  They were not
> generally available when the original Road Standard was designed so it
> has short reach brakes.  Once Shimano introduced a double-pivot
> standard reach brake the LongLow became possible.  The long stays and
> increased drop were natural changes to go with the increased tire
> clearance made possible by the brakes.  I believe Douglas Brooks got
> the first LongLow in a beautiful burgundy cherry color.  I coveted
> that bike.
>
> A little Googling tells me that dbrk's LongLow was delivered in 1996.
> The lugs on this one match my '95 Road, and another '95 on
> Cyclofiend's site. later / custom Roads had fancier lugs.  I'd say
> this bike is more than the claimed 10 years old.
>
> I paid $900 for my Road Std. in 1995.  That was the going rate without
> the contrasting head tube option.  $1550 is more than the frame would
> have sold for new in 1995/6.  I bought the prototype Mountain/
> Expedition from Riv for $500 in the late 90's (and sold it for that a
> couple of years ago).
>
> Bill
>
> On Aug 30, 2:58 pm, Doug Van Cleve <dvancl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > IIRC, the Long Low had longer chainstays and a lower BB than the same era
> > Road Standard (hence the name).  It also had round fork blades, like the
> > Herons that were also offered back then and I think it was set up with more
> > tire clearance and either canti or standard reach caliper brakes.
>
> > Doug
>
> > On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Seth Vidal <skvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I've seen this riv for sale for quite a while;
>
> > >http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/1926067572.html
>
> > > I've got no particular interest in it but I'm curious if anyone here
> > > knows the backstory on this one. It never seems to sell and I'm not
> > > terribly familiar with the long low in general - what was its defining
> > > characteristics versus the same vintage rivendells?
>
> > > -sv

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