I use 8-speed on all the Rivendells.  Silver shifters with an 8speed
SRAM 11-32 cassette.  I use a normal rise rear derailleur, and I can
absolutely shove it from the second-largest to the largest cog under
load silently.  Shifting to a smaller cog is already lightly loaded,
because I'm shifting to a smaller cog for a reason, so that shift is
great, too.  I do sometimes undershift a hair and get some in between
cog chain noise because the ramped modern cogsets want to shift, but
that's just a trim excercise.

Silver shifters are very cool and very smooth, and friction shifting
is so very easy to maintain, but still, I'd advise Shimano index for
anyone who might get frustrated with any of the technique aspects.  My
Bombadil, with 8 speed index on Paul Thumbies is the best shifting
bike I've ever ridden.  Absolutely flawless.

So if you wanted to try any new parts, I'd put a +1 for possibly
trying an 8-speed cogset, and a +1 for possibly trying Shimano barcon
shifters.  Remember they have the friction option if you want to
grouch-out retro-wise.

On Aug 18, 8:17 am, JLa <juhani.lait...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for all the replys.
>
> My bike is quite new and the shifting is fine other than the largest
> cogs. If the problem was with derailleur hanger, would it affect all
> the gears?
>
> If forgot to say that the cassette is 9 speed (11-34).
>
> Grant Petersen's advice on the Shifting page on rivbike.com sounds
> good.
>
> I think I have two different problems. First, it’s really hard for me
> to get exact shifts with the biggest cogs with “Silver Shifters” and
> secondly I had wrong technique (or no technique at all) on upphills.
>
> I guess I need to go out and practice the shifting with the biggest
> cogs and then try Grant Petersen's advice on uphills - to first pedal
> hard for a stroke to get up a small bit of speed and the pedal lightly
> and shift.
>
> Is there anyone else using the “Silver Shifters” with Shimano 9 speed
> 11-34. I’m wondering if it’s really so that they don’t work together
> well - or is it just about the technique?

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