I had to ask for it at an automotive parts store. They carried it, but
it wasn't on the shelf. Hardware stores only carried red HEET. But I
live in a mild-winter area; friends who live where it freezes in the
winter said they have no trouble getting yellow HEET.

Denatured alcohol is widely available in gallons and quarts. Nobody
wants to carry a gallon of fuel, but for a tour lasting more than a
week, starting with a quart isn't ridiculous, especially since alcohol
stoves burn more fuel per unit of heat than gas stoves.

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:13 AM, Lisa <ukulele.l...@mac.com> wrote:
> Is yellow HEET still available?  or is there some other common
> automotive additive that's really just methanol / ethanol?
>
> Since I bought a Trangia stove this spring, I've been keeping an eye
> out for HEET in roadside gas stations, truck stops, etc.  They all
> have ISO-HEET (red) but not the yellow methanol HEET.
>
> Perhaps yellow HEET is no longer of interest to drivers since gasoline
> has ethanol added to it these days?
>
> Lisa
>
> On Aug 12, 12:19 am, Anne Paulson <anne.paul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I recently bought a Trangia stove with the pot and frying pan set.
>> Rivendell sells this fine product and recommends it for campouts.
>> Based on my recent experimentation, I concur.  Here's a report on my
>> experiments:
>>
>> Water for a cup of tea boils quickly. I didn't time it, but something
>> like four or five minutes, perfectly fine for a camping breakfast or
>> for an afternoon warmup on a long cold ride. And unlike my MSR white
>> gas stove which roars like a freight train, the Trangia is completely
>> silent.
>>
>> But what about actual food?  I tried pancakes, made with Krusteaz
>> buttermilk pancake mix, on a sub-24. I brought along some Krusteaz in
>> a ziplock. At the campsite, I mixed it with enough water to make a
>> pourable batter, just stirring so that most but not all the lumps were
>> gone (why yes, I do bring along a wire whisk when camping, why do you
>> ask?). I used the Trangia without the simmer ring; pancakes cook
>> fairly quickly. I made two or three little pancakes in the frying pan
>> at a time, turning them over when the bubbles popped. Results:
>> Delicious. I spread them with Nutella.
>>
>> Emboldened, I moved on to a biscuit. For this, I used a homemade mix
>> of 1 cup flour, 1/4 cup powdered milk,  1 teaspoon baking powder, 1/4
>> teaspoon salt,1 tablespoon Crisco. I mixed the dry ingredients
>> together, then cut the Crisco in using two knives. (If I made a bigger
>> batch, I'd mix in the Crisco in the food processor with six or eight
>> quick pulses.) I took about 1/3 cup of the mix, and mixed in just
>> enough water to make a stiff dough. I formed it into a biscuit-shaped
>> round about half an inch thick, and cooked it in a lightly greased
>> frying pan, covered with a makeshift aluminum-foil lid. I had to
>> experiment with the simmer ring setting. The first time, I had it set
>> in the completely open position, but that resulted in burned outsides
>> and gummy insides. The simmer ring about half covered worked better. I
>> cooked it about eight minutes on the first side, turned it over, and
>> cooked it around five minutes on the second side. Result: delicious. I
>> was home this time, so I put on butter and honey, but a biscuit like
>> this would be good with dinner too.
>>
>> The biscuit mix would work well for pancakes too-- just add an egg if
>> you have one, plus enough water to make a pourable batter and maybe a
>> bit of sugar if you happen to have any. Then cook and enjoy.
>>
>> The small cookset, which is what I have, is really only adequate for
>> one. I was able to boil spaghetti for one (about 1/6 lb) successfully,
>> but when I tried spaghetti for two there wasn't enough room in the pot
>> for the noodles plus the water to cook them. For two people, I
>> recommend the bigger cookset. Cooking for a group of four or more, I
>> recommend a gas stove.
>>
>> Here's the recommendation: If you do sub24s, buy a Trangia. They're
>> simple, they're light, the whole cookset packs up in one neat small
>> package*, they burn HEET**  and denatured alcohol***, both readily
>> available.
>>
>> * The Trangia comes with a screwtop so that if there is still fuel in
>> the stove when you're finished cooking, you can snuff it out, let it
>> cool down, then screw on the lid. However, unfortunately, you can't
>> transport the stove (say, in your panniers) with alcohol in it,
>> because it will leak, even with the screw top. I emailed Trangia to
>> ask, and that's what they told me. So use up all your fuel in the
>> morning.
>>
>> ** HEET in the yellow container. The red container HEET is the wrong stuff.
>>
>> *** but do not buy Sunnyside brand denatured alcohol, the house brand
>> of Tru Value hardware stores. It smokes.
>>
>> --
>> -- Anne Paulson
>>
>> My hovercraft is full of eels
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