This saddens me.  I'm definitely feeling a difference between those two
sizings.  I'd be very interested in teh traditional looking Grand Cru in my
size.

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Ted Durant <teddur...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
>    William wrote:
>
>
>    ...Too bad
>    for me that Chris K insists I can't tell the difference between
>    172.5mm and 170.
>
>
> and pruckelshaus added:
>
>
>    I agree completely. No 172.5 makes it a non-starter for me....
>
>
> Interestingly, I used to feel the same way. Recently, though, I took the
> vintage 1986 Dura Ace group off the tiny Shogun and put it on my vintage
> 1978ish racing frame. The crank in that group is a 165. I went for a 40k
> ride on it and, while I'd have to say I think I noticed a difference from my
> usual 172.5, I did NOT notice any difference in road speed. I did feel like
> I naturally rode at a slightly higher cadence. Whatever difference I felt
> was definitely not worse, and maybe was better. It really opened my mind up
> to where I'd use 170 instead of my normal 172.5 on any road bike. I didn't
> do any significant climbing, but I wouldn't expect that to change my mind.
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee, WI USA
>
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