If you take a look at the enlarged pictures, it looks like the leather is already cracking around the rear rivets....hmmm.
Angus On Aug 1, 3:40 pm, Jim Cloud <[email protected]> wrote: > Joel, > Without dragging this discussion too much further, one comment I'd > make pertaining to the item that the seller is offering on eBay is > that it's not the same as the current Brooks B.17 models. The > description in my Rivendell No. 3 catalog (Summer 1997) for the Brooks > B.17 saddle that Rivendell was selling at the time reads as follows > (Grant's words, I would assume): "The prettiest saddle in the world, > and the most comfortable we've sat on. A spiffed up (just for > Rivendell) B.17 with Brooks Pro-thick honey brown leather, large hand- > set copper rivets, chromed rails, and a chamfered lower edge." > > Two things stand out in that description versus the current models of > the B.17. One is "Pro-thick"..leather, the other is chromed rails. > The current models of the B.17 are frequently mentioned in various > forums as having poorer quality leather in the saddle which is not as > durable as the earlier Brooks B.17. The current saddles are reported > as sometimes wearing out before they are broken in (this has > specifically been mentioned by Jan Heine). In addition, if someone > wants a chrome rail B.17 they definitely can't purchase a new one from > Rivendell, or anyone else for that matter. > > I agree with you, by the way, that price the Seller is asking on eBay > appears too high. It may, however, have some justification to be > described as a "special model" (they were never sold in some nifty > box, by the way). > > Jim Cloud > > On Aug 1, 1:10 pm, JoelMatthews <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I've sold a number of items on eBay over the years. In some instances > > > my items sold for considerably more than I'd paid for them > > > originally. > > > As I have I both selling and buying. > > > That is what auctions are all about. What caught my attention with > > this sale however, is the seller set the initial price $55.00 above > > what a new B-17 costs. Again, if the saddle is unused and still in > > special edition box, maybe it is worth a mark up. Still not sure > > about a $55.00 mark up, but whatever. > > > If I were selling that saddle, I would put the base price at $70.00 > > and feel really good if bidding brought it up to $120.00. As it is, I > > will be real surprised if the saddle sells. Stranger things have > > happened. > > > On Aug 1, 12:07 pm, Jim Cloud <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I've sold a number of items on eBay over the years. In some instances > > > my items sold for considerably more than I'd paid for them > > > originally. The eBay market is a contract between the Seller and the > > > Buyer, if the Buyer wants something enough to pay for it, whatever the > > > price, whose problem is that? > > > > I also have a Brook B.17 saddle that I purchased originally from > > > Rivendell back in 1997 or so. It looks very similar to the one the > > > Seller has available presently (mine is marked "6D9"). Since I'm not > > > using this saddle I've definitely marked this Seller's item on my > > > watch list. I'd have absolutely no qualms selling my saddle for more > > > than what I paid! > > > > In addition, I've frequently seen posts on this forum and other > > > related forums (Internet-BOB) where someone nailed a very nice bike at > > > a yard sale for next to nothing. The poster frequently brags about > > > their buy and how they negotiated with the seller to obtain a lower > > > price. Is this fair? > > > > By the way, I don't buy anything on eBay that I can get for less money > > > from another source. > > > > Jim Cloud > > > Tucson, AZ > > > > On Aug 1, 4:57 am, JoelMatthews <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > This seller apparently believes the fact this used Brooks B-17 was > > > > sold by Rivendell means it ought to fetch more than Rivendell will > > > > sell you one new: > > > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/Brooks-Rivendell-Saddle-/280542049122?cmd=ViewIte... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
